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Yeah it's weird. Seems that you can transmute complex things that aren't just substances since we have Bisky and Zeno. Admittedly they're the highest tier of transmuters we've seen so far but still. It's weird since that just makes transmutation into "conjuration except invisible and attached to you"

I wondered about this because of the "plot hole" of Killua recognizing Dragon Dive, even though it was before he knew of Nen.
There seem to be a few things conjured/transmuted by Nen that the average person can see.
>transmuting physical substances such as lightning.
>conjuring chains
>conjuring a book
>conjuring coins
I imagine the dragons are either conjured and manipulated by Zeno (he seems to be a conjurer because of the size and physical presence of the dragons) and his manipulation seems secondary.
Another theory could be that he's a manipulator who conjures basic dragons aswell as emit basic, unstable forms of them (such as in his fight with Chrollo).

many such ideas. Zeno is a weird one when it comes to nen

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Or he's a transmuter and Killua just recognized the effect of the attack and Zeno's stance, not the dragon itself.

What about Silva? White haired Zoldycks are transmuters, but the guy just creates aura bombs, how did he get acquainted with bombs to the extent that he can make his aura explosive? You can't exactly build a tolerance to explosions

Now that I think about it, I'm not sure if it's specifically stated that Biscuit's nen beast was transmuted. It seems like it would be too detailed and is probably conjuration.

Zeno on the other hand seems like he just gives his aura the shape of a dragon and manipulates it. Kind of like how that one guy from Heaven's Arena made a hand with his Transmuter ability.

you guys are missing a basic fact of Nen.
Your category isn't singular and you can access multiple fields. Manipulators can often conjure basic items to accompany them.
Conjurers can often manipulate their items basically.
A good example is Kurapika being able to conjure complex chains as well as be able to manipulate them in basic ways to lock up Phantom Troupe members.
yeah this is another theory I just think it would have raised more questions from Killua at a young age about the presence of Nen. kinda hard to brush an entire attack off on that scale as "technique"

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You probably don't need to touch and experience something to transmute it, that's just the fastest way. I'm guessing if you fiddle around with it you can create fire without burning yourself, or explosions without exploding yourself.

Well transmutation is about shaping the aura and since Bisky is a nen master it's not that far fetched she'd be able to give it such detail. Look at Razor, he's not a transmuter but he has to shape the nen beasts he emits, right?
Zeno's dragon looks more ethereal and less tangible but isn't that because it's an attack and not a nen beast?

It could also be a secondary Enhancer ability that he uses to make his nen explosive. Enhancers like Gon and Uvogin are capable of create huge explosions using only their fists

razor conjures his nen beasts.
it's ridiculous given he's an emitter and should theoretically only be able to use 40% of the conjuration powers he possesses, even with the amount of Emission he's in control of on Greed Island.
he's probably one of the strongest nen users int he world aswell

>razor conjures his nen beasts
Where was this stated? He's an emitter, it's safer to assume he emits + transmutes them.

his little flower isn't that powerful compared to Gon's attack or Uvogin's.
most likely uses his Enhancing to protect himself from explosions (with gyo for example) or to just fight with.
Tho it takes a lot to have it on tap aswell as be able to conjure indefinite ticking time bombs

emission looks to be unstable from every form of it we've seen.
The idea he could "emit" physical components and "transmute them" to perform complex tasks such as insane levels of one-shot-kill volleyball seems unlikely.
Again, he IS an emitter. the scale of his emission abilities as seen on Greed Island is obvious to see.

>is one of the strongest nen users in the world, probably on par with the Zoldyck heads and top zodiacs in terms of mastery
>uses it to make a dodgeball team
What the fuck is his problem

maybe I should finally watch the animu then

Well Transmuters are only able to use Enhancer abilities at 80% proficiency so it makes sense that his explosions wouldn't be as powerful as a true Enhancer

>unstable
Not really, look at Knuckle
He also only transmuted the shape, the complex tasks are handled by manipulation presumably

did u not read the manga?
he's most likely paying back his debt to Ging who broke him out of prison.
not to mention he's controlling the emission spells on Greed Island.

Gotta wonder how he managed to get caught and imprisoned in the first place

Happy April fool's

Doesn't really explain dragons. Seems like the "you need exposure to transmute" thing is just a way to make it easier for beginners, not a requirement

maybe the Ox zodiac caught him. He's supposed to be the crime hunter.

He isn't using manipulation, he's probably using emission to control the aura at long distance. The transmutation probably is just used to make the aura solid.
Normal aura can't be touched (normal people can't feel it) but it can damage things when ejected in great amounts at fast speeds (like an emissions bullet or a nen powered punch). I presume that Zeno's dragon is solid like normal matter and Gon's scissor is probably the same.

stop saying "transmuted" the shape it makes zero sense.
also it's not obvious what category knuckle is.
Presumably you'd say he's a specialist because of the complex nature of APR and IRS.
>conjures Hakoware baby
>manipulation is basic but strong. follow everywhere
>seals nen away
only thing we can see that does this is Kurapika's chains. but it was with a condition and that could be the Nen debt he has to acrew.

He doesn't look that strong, or at least his actions on the ship don't suggest he's in Ging's league, but who knows

actually this is a good example of "transmuting a shape". but not with Hakoware or an entire nen beast, just with basic hardening or aura shaping.

It makes perfect sense. And yes Knuckle is most likely an emitter

why do you suppose he's an emitter?
only thing i could presume is that the ability to seal nen away is an emission ability but i dont know how to arrive at that conclusion