Why don't westerners care about it despite its consistent high quality and seeming willingness to allow a bit more in terms of both content and the types of series it approves? Certain elements like to talk about their made up "soft seinen" term but I feel like Champion the magazine that effectively acts as the bridge between shounen and seinen. It revived Tezuka's reputation by allowing him to publish Black Jack and was the home of series as varied as Dokaben to Eko Eko Azarak to Baki to Iruma-kun.
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Owen Hill
the only magazine people care about is shonen jump, and that's because every single series has official weekly translations freely accessible through mangaplus
other magazines should start doing the same if they want attention from the western crowd
Owen Wright
There are other manga than Jump?
Jacob Miller
>willingness to allow a bit more in terms of both content.
The main Shonen Jump magazine allowed pretty much anything during the 80s and early 90s
Liam Martinez
Not enough branding overseas. Call me when we see a Champion app or Champion crossover game.
Dominic Clark
Yes but that ended when Dragon Ball and Slam Dunk did and they subsequently got BTFO by Magazine which was running shit like Kindaichi, GTO and Love Hina simultaneously. After they regained the top spot due to One Piece taking off and Love Hina and GTO ending, they went strictly formlua and you'll never really get anything experimental or different from them again for the most part.
Sesuji wo Pin! would've done much better in Champion than it did in Jump, for instance, but the only spokon Jump wants is fujobait Slam Dunk clones. I can't imagine them publishing one like Ippon Again or even bothering to promote it or show it love despite not being a top selling series the way that Champion seems to.
Robert Morgan
they dont have a mangaplus
Henry Price
the magazines reject progress, SJ has done everything possible to publish their stuff online and make it easy to read, they take back viewership from piracy sites
champion thinks their stuff wont get subs or attention even though all of their stuff has millions of views online every week.
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Cooper Torres
>champion thinks their stuff wont get subs or attention even though all of their stuff has millions of views online every week.
>Iruma-kun and Baki can't get NA publishers to pick them up despite their popularity both in Japan and among NA manga readers
They're right. The only thing that's gotten attention in the US mainstream anime community (i.e. publishers and the people who refuse to even go to Mangadex) is Beastars and that's entirely because furries will spend money on anything. Like they'd the perfect magazine for Seven Seas or Yen Press to jump on board with and beome Champion's (Weekly, Monthly, RED, whatever) exclusive partner in the NA market.
But absolutely no NA publisher seems interested in them. They're doing slightly better in Europe where at least frogs and bullfighters can pick up SHY.
Matthew Nguyen
Any Forums should just make its own publisher then
"Any Forumsnus press LLC", funded by Any Forums Capital
enough of us made it right?
Matthew Price
I seriously wonder where these small publishers like Denpa and Comikey spring up from and manage to get the funding and capital to license stuff. I mean Depa scored Kaiji and Oshimi's stuff, that's not really a small thing.
Ian Reed
Because the average westerner is a shit eating pleb that doesn't deserve to read good manga like Iruma or Jitsu wa Watashi wa. Hell, even on Any Forums the Weekly Young Jump toc threads are dead compared to the WSJ threads when the overall quality of the manga is much better between Golden Kamuy, Shadows House, Uma Musume, and Kaguya
Lincoln Cruz
Angel Roberts
do people here actually spend money on things?
does anyone on Any Forums actually spend money on manga, digital or otherwise?
anal press LLC sounds great but are we willing to stuff that hole and buy shit
John Rodriguez
I know how you feel, but just leave it like that, if the west just like the jump then leave it like that, in fact i enjoy way more the champion and the magazine that the jump nowadays
Mason Bell
>do people here actually spend money on things?
I do because I want the opportunity to own physical copies of things I like in a language I can read. It's why I'm buying stuff like Fist of the North Star and Skip and Loafer
Christopher Rodriguez
And WSM because of all the romcoms
Grayson Morris
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Its a startup so it literally came out of nowhere. Pre-seed so nobody with a big bag is funding yet.
Luke Adams
There's nothing officially in English. Any discussion about non-Jump shonen is futile because of this.
Owen Perry
I do think the fact that Champion's series aren't brainless power level spamming hurts it with the large crowd of people that just wants "hype" stuff. Even SHY at its most battle heavy still focuses a lot on the emotional and psychological element of the characters more than them pulling out new techniques every chapter.
My boss at work is a younger guy and into Any Forums stuff so I've talked anime and manga with him before. But it's only basic entry level Jump batlte shounen like One Piece, KnY and MHA and I've long since given up on trying to get him into anything even a bit outside manga MCU bubble.
James Thompson
All I know about them is that a bunch of Jaminicocks faggots are involved and they have an ultra jewy pay model while also trying to DMCA shit on Any Forums.
Joshua Parker
Why do people talk about official translations when it had the same popularity as before that, if i remember right manga plus is from 2019 only
Kevin Young
>Why don't westerners care about it
nigga they don't even care about wsj titles that aren't one piece, mha or jjk. anything without an anime on the front page of crunchyroll gets completely ignored
Cameron Cruz
I don't see why we couldn't do a better job.
Good will from not messing with people would pay off more than DMCA
Just offer a better product than fansubbers with zero drama, and a smooth app. The SJ app works well and is worth emulating, I think. They charge $2 a month for unlimited chapters and access to the entire library
Compare this to $12 for a single volume on bookwalker, there's room to interrupt.
Alexander Gutierrez