Was he wrong?
Drown in your ideals and die
Isaiah Cruz
Isaac Gray
I wish I had ideals
Jaxon Perry
Yes, Archer is depressed and jaded so he gets angry when he sees idealistic people.
Julian Jones
In a sense. He was right about his eng goal, and about his own nature as a person, but he was also very understandably biased, but he wasn't wrong.
Logan Jackson
He was correct.
Ian Rogers
He might have been correct, but he wasn't right!
Connor Bailey
Why are his facial features so much different from Shirou's?
The only connection is their eyebrows, it's shit. Takeuchi is a hack that has held Nasu back for 20 years.
Jordan Sanders
while shirou isn't fully developed during the events of f/sn the similarities are still there. it's easier to see the resemblance when archer has his hair down and a softer expression
William Smith
Nasu is literally only successful because of Takeuchi
Juan Wright
>sameface bad
>characters dont have sameface, bad
Luke Bell
I still do not understand UBW, how exactly does Shirou even refute him? he made no valid argument whatsoever, if my future self came back and told me the path I'm taking is leading me straight to hell I think it's probably wiser to listen to him than to throw a tantrum.
Asher Collins
Weak bait.
Shirou is 16, and he's only like 5'6"
Apparently by 30 he
>grows to 6'2"
>voice is lowered by 2 octaves
>eyes change shape entirely
Jonathan Reyes
he simply declares he won't become like him while retaining the exact same ideals with archer, it's rin's pussy that saves him from ending up like archer
Lucas Morris
That's the thing: he didn't. Refuting Archer wasn't the point.
Archer being right doesn't mean Shirou should listen to him. The path he walks is not like Kirei's utilitarianism, it is path of true moralfaggotry.
In Shirou's mind, morality is before reason.
Leo Phillips
Archer wasn't an heroic spirit so could troll Masters like Shirou at leisure.
Christian Walker
so basically Kierkegaard's knight of faith?
Elijah Peterson
People don't look the same when they go through some shit. Look at any 30+ year old that peaked in high school.
Also magic and shit.
Ethan Bennett
Only if it's Spiders.
Ayden Young
Part of Archer's power and mystique was to keep people guessing who he was while living. Rin eventually pieces clues together.
Archer was an alternative Shirou though, not the one in UBL. Shirou has the potential to become a version of Archer but without any guarantee.
Nicholas Lopez
not even a little bit, Shirou was a retard
John Evans
>he says when talking about 2 characters who are the same person
KILL YOURSELF
Zachary Wood
that was the joke...
Matthew Barnes
no
Jace Price
Because even if it's impossible to be the hero that saves everyone, it's worth it to make the attempt.