>The "villainesses" are mostly just your usual goody two shoes shoujo feMC in otome isekai
Then what is the point of making them villainesses in the first place? Why is it so uncommon to see genuinely evil villainesses who scheme against everyone and enjoy other's suffering?
The "villainesses" are mostly just your usual goody two shoes shoujo feMC in otome isekai
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Logan Ross
>genuinely evil villainesses who scheme against everyone and enjoy other's suffering?
Who would watch that?
Grayson Allen
well, ask yourself, do you aspire to that?
eeeew
Kayden Rivera
The girl in Villainess’s Butler is a yandere, but it happens that MC is completely loyal to her
Samuel James
Because you only read shitty villainess stories. The reason why people like them because they has a sense agency in their story. They are the one who make the plot move forward or manipulate the plot to their benefit. They also has that Ojou-sama charm
Chase Johnson
because theyre the ones being beaten. Theyre the ones being chased. theyre the ones being reviled. Theyre the ones being hated.
The wish fulfillment story of the male is to escape his weakness by going to a world where he can be special and have lots of power. For otome ge scenarios, the same situation takes place from the perspective of social bonds and ties. The girl in that picture for example could easily have just killed all of the losers who set her up, she has the power. she already "won", but that's not enough for her. She wants to have the social power to turn things into her favor. this is the drama that appeals to girls and female brained males in the otome genre. Otome survival is the only otome isekai I've ever read that feels entirely male brained.
Jordan Ortiz
the villainess part is so they can live in unironic opulence
the isekai part is so they can still look relatable despite said opulence
Wyatt Perry
still haven't topped heretical villainess
Jayden Cooper
and fallen villainess is something like getting kicked out of party plot, basically muh wronged porn.
Usually it is more coherent than that schlock, though.
Anthony Bell
First off, a hearty hello towards OP and his fellow GENTLEMEN. I wish you that you survive your next stress-induced strokes, too.
Secondly, it's not about them being evil per se, but more about them being in a position of power and authority from the start, which is so liked because most mainstream fiction, while it often has the MC become "someone special", usually starts with the MC being some "nobody" or a "country bumpkin" or whatever, basically someone who is either ostracized or is otherwise "your average joe".
Otome Villainess stories simply go against that trend. While one could argue that it shouldn't count because the MC in Otome Villainess stories usually was a random pleb or OL from nipland, it doesn't change the fact that the MC was infact (re)born as a duke's daughter or such and that point is what people focus on because it is what people like about it.
Noah Clark
>isekai and canon timeline intersect
>capture targets from canon timeline try to kill MC but her capture targets stop them
>MC shits her pants when they say that the canon villainess is still alive and that they come from a bad end where she won
>now MC and capture targets from both timelines must work together to defeat the villainess
>villainess still kicks all their asses and almost gets the MC raped
Grayson Morgan
>female brained males in the otome genre.
Cameron Green
Villain isekai > Villainess isekai
Medieval patriarchy limits most villainesses pre and post isekai
Colton Kelly
>villainess still kicks all their asses and almost gets the MC raped
Kek, now let's add batshit insanity to that by having a reveal that the "canon timeline" villainess got isekai-possessed by Cao Cao after his death in a Ro3K parallel world Earth and it would be perfect. If it was like that I might be interested in reading it.
Michael Barnes
>The Marquis's daughter is always kick out of every party she participates because she doesn't have any valuable social connection, but it turns out that her only friend is crown prince of a powerful kingdom
Jacob Wright
I want that to be separate series
>Machiavellian warlord gets isekai'd as villainess
>what I'm supposed to avoid destruction flags? but I have so much power why shouldn't I unite all under the heavens to my name?
Hunter Howard
>Machiavellian warlord gets isekai'd as villainess
There is something quite close. That isekai where Nobunaga's isekai'd as the fem demon lord.
Christian Cooper
Not related much but isn't there a otome (seinen) about the heroine has to avoid all type of reincanator who either want to kill her or want to replace her ?
Jacob Myers
what series?
Kayden Gomez
>Nobunaga
FUCKING DROPPED OFF THE CLIFF AND SHOT
fuck off with that crap already, Japan
Michael Nguyen
Nobunaga is the only wanking I understand
>starts from literally who territory already besieged whose only advantage is being next door to Kyoto
>doesn't really matter because literally everyone attacks you immediately after to take over
>defeat them anyway
>adopt monkey and fatass sidekick, they also conquer Japan
Rome, France China, they were already chad cunts before their perspective wargods appeared, Owari was made by a bunch of sake sellers
Ethan Ortiz
>Medieval patriarchy limits most villainesses pre and post isekai
We really need an otome isekai where the a feminist gets reborn as the villainess, then uses her political power along with modern political science knowledge to challenge the unjust patriarchy and bring about her desired matriarchal world order.
Matthew Butler
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Ian Diaz
>Summon your not!Pokemon to get molested by wild not!Pokemons
Kayden Thomas
Why do you fags use images that can't be reverse-searched?
Gabriel Richardson
>Spiders
irredeemable. We must Charles-Henri Sanson her.
Parker Taylor
>Not!Pokemon world
>kicked out of trainer party because all your monsters are weak
>turns out they have skills that sets up your other monsters to sweep
>crush all enemies with the equivalent to magikarp
Luke Foster
because you don't deserve the sauce
Connor Taylor
I'm in love.
Ayden Sanders
Because of how they are almost always sexy.
Jason Clark
But user... the demon lords we know and love is basically just a mix of three things: Far Eastern mythology, Oda Nobunaga, and "Der Erlkönig".
Ryder Garcia
no one likes a two face bitch OP the best you can have is a quirky yandere
Jace Collins
look at it
youtube.com
Tyler Collins
>Zhang Ruo Chen was the sole male heir of one of the nine emperors of the Kunlun Field. Ruo Chen’s father was known to all as the “Enlightened Emperor”, however Ruo Chen didn’t just leech off his status as emperor’s son. He proved himself to be a dragon amongst men, possessing a heaven defying body, and managing to cultivate to Greater Perfection within the Yellow Horizon Realm, at just the young age of 16.
>But even though he stood at the summit of the younger generation and had a boundless future, he sadly died at the treacherous hands of his own fiancee at a young age.
>Reincarnated 800 years later in the body of a young boy who shares his name, he found out his former fiancee already unified Kunlun’s Field and built the First Central Empire, and was now known as Empress Chi Yao… Empress Chi Yao—Her Majesty governed the mortal world and enjoyed prestige in all directions as well as an eternal life.
>Zhang Ruochen stood outside of the Imperial Ancestral Temple, looking at the statue of Empress Chi Yao, and the flames of hatred burned in his heart. “After I practice for 13 years, I shall send the empress to her doom!”
I don't know the empress sounds pretty based