So is this guy a Mary Sue or not?

So is this guy a Mary Sue or not?

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He gets fucked up and/or does something completely retarded in every film, so no.

>believes hes hot shit because of le prophecy
>still gets BTFO in every fight except for dooku in 3
nope

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he's a gary sue

>mace windu dislikes him
>yoda dislikes him
>everyone he loves ends up hating him
He’s powerful but no gary stu

disneyshit isn't canon

he is a reverse Mary Sue

the whole star wars saga is to show the tragedy of darth vader

and thats because the one person who he loved was about to die, he sought help from the only man in the galaxy, the only man who he could talk to and he so happened to be a sith lord and maipulated him

how the fuck is he a mary sue if he gets chopped in half you stupid faggot?

No, Any Forums is just turbogay for him.

How would he possibly be considered a Mary Sue? Where is the universal praise in universe for him? The Jedi saw him as unreliable at best, Obi was always telling him what he was doing wrong, he lost every in the entire franchise except weak against old men and only in rematches.

If the narrative didn't explicitly say he was this super powerful chosen one, he'd be seen as a mediocre Jedi at best

>fail at everything
>lose
>get limbs sliced off
>burn alive horribly
>die

>he lost every in the entire franchise
He lost against Dooku in part 2, but then he killed him in 3. He did lose to Obi Wan on Mustafar, but that was due to being an overconfident hothead, and then he beat him in a New Hope.
He didn't want to kill his son in RotJ but he still saved him from getting killed.

>except weak against old men and only in rematches.
You didn't even read the rest of the sentence before you replied to the post

lmao

>Dooku
>weak old man
>Obi Juan Kenobi
>best defensive duelist and surviving jedi knight
>weak old man

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Mary Sue is a character inserted into an established story by new hacks that want to leave there mark. You know, like Rey.

His arms and legs get cut off, his dick burned off and his hot wife is dead, he needs to be in life support armor, he loses everything, his potential gets totally crippled with his injures, and literally never stops being a slave his entire life until the moment of his death when he finally casts off that slavery for his son.
Do you even understand what a Mary sue is?

>Was
Even I can beat up a geriatric gold medal boxer who doesn't even have the wherewithal to say or do anything except look around confused when his execution is ordered by his boss.
And Obi let him win

The geriatric btfo'd Obi Wan twice though, and he was much younger.
>And Obi let him win
He gave up because he couldn't beat him. Otherwise, he would've disposed of him once and for all and helped destroy the Empire.