Theoretically speaking, is this reversible without immigration? Why can’t the youngsters be conditioned through media and television to have 2-3 kids? They can restart their pyramid no?
Theoretically speaking, is this reversible without immigration...
it is an economic problem.
South Korea has a booming economy though. Everybody wants South Korean products.
how the fuck is there such a massive male surplus in the 20-30 range?
And the cost of living there is high.
So?
You're not gonna have children in your 40s+. The more time passes, the higher the median age gets, the harder it will be to reverse this.
it's like that in most countries without war, Men are born slightly more often than women but tend to die younger
No one is going to have kids if they can't pay rent.
Humans have existed for 200,000 years but there's only been like 100 years where there's no economic incentive to have kids. It's not a big mystery
Africans live in mudhouses and have 7 kids. It's all cope from faggots too used to comfort.
Because Germans want us to stop having babies to reduce carbon emissions and resource usage. Haven't you been listening?
unironically the only way is to artificially get rid of old people who are of no use to society anymore (70+). Hold a lottery and those who are unlucky are put to death or let people whose health has fallen apart to commit legal suicide
africans in mudhouses don't sustain themselves through wage labor in an urban city.
As a whole their fertility rate is 4.2 today, down from 6+ in the late 90s
You have to cut out the top part of the female side as women over 40 are infertile.
Then cut the bottom from like 14 or 15 or 16 down as it's against the law or taboo or such.
Then of the remaining cut out the infertile ones from sickness, abortion, life styles, etc.
Then remove the prostitutes, kpop stars, fashion models, international corporation career women, ..
What remains is a very limited group of women and they are picky and brainwashed to think they need many more things than they do really to be mothers.
Excuses, africans have high working hours
Either ban abortion for natives or make a tax for people who don’t have children by 25. I’m pretty sure China is going to do this
I'm only taking about blacks. For them it's above 5
The chaeboll owns everything and remaining 50 million plebs live extremely expensive lives.
Just because samsung earns billions it means nothing to some young man that was forced into military and then is like doing doordash and living in one room.
get rid of feminism
remove womens career focus
its not possible though, because to be a competitive economy you now need both gneders working
Africans don't have Korean women or westernized women to convince into motherhood.
It depends, Botswana has a fertility rate of 2.8
The cost of a kid for Africans living in mudhuts engaged in agriculture is literally negative. It's an additional unpaid labourer to work the farm or work somewhere else and bring money to the family. And even then, with the rapid urbanisation and development, African birth rates, while still high, are plummeting from where they were a few decades ago.
this genuinely sounds like something yellow people would be willing to try
You don't understand human beings. Firstly abortion rates in south Korea aren't high, secondly the zoomers/millenials will 100% pay the tax rather than have children, which are huge, life long investments. This can't be fixed with half mesures, with softness. Only something big can reverse this
What’s preventing the under 20’s from being conditioned to have 2-3 kids each woman?
What is the benefit of the continued existence of the human race?
Excuses, the infantilized males are just as guilty
Worthless cherrypicking, the big countries have the highest ones, who cares if small black countries have lower birthrates than them
Watch video of Alain Soral on feminism
It's a complex matter but he explained it perfectly in 10 minutes
19 year old woman in high school or university is gonna think about everything else but being a mother
It's obviously relevant if you think it's something inherent to being black. Botswana and SA are the two wealthier sub-saharan African countries and have the lowest fertility rates, dropping to Euro levels
Kill yourself retard
this isnt even a real problem and its just used as a justification for immigration
immigration is not the "solution" bc 1. its not a problem in the first place and 2. it just dilutes wages and increases competition for the average citizen and destabilises the job market long term
the only people that it benefits are the people running the big companies and further this advantage helps larger corpos outcompete small local businesses
you also destroy your nation culturally if you let in a bunch of immigrants who never assimilate, and barely anyone actually assimilates these days
People often believe that demographics are irreversible, when it certainly isn't, many countries along history have experienced the same problems in history.
The point is, population control is usually pushed by countries which are prosperous and thrive off economic sectors, since there are no wars or famines to cap the population, leaders usually promote less structured families, female worker rights, same-sex unions and nowadays regulated abortions
The opposite happens for countries that are in constant threat of war or poverty, since they often need a constant influx of soldiers or workers to maintain the war struggle, hence leaders promote traditional values, male-oriented leadership, prohibition of abortion and rigid family values
The nowadays dwindling population numbers are intended to be this way, because in the 90s and 00s the leaders of the western world believed they had conquered the entire world, hence there would never ever be a threat to their leadership, hence they needed to tackle the surging population, since they wouldn't have a world war or something to decrease the population numbers.
Didn't read atheist
The longer thé décline thé longer thé recovery phase to reach normal age distribution will be, and the harder it will be to sustain economically due to the largest bulge of inactive old people. Just ask young people to pay for old people and also have children? They won't accept that
Never implied that, you're simply retarded
True, it gets pretty grim once you start considering all the factors that can affect population sizes as well as human differences between men and women. Especially when you compare it with other countries get used as imports. Just grim all around and makes you wonder how the breaking point is going to look like
I don't know what your point is. Living in a mudhouse is a pretty good reason to have kids because then you're probably a farmer or at least self-sufficient to some extent
My hopes for the future is that all these dumb child-hating antinatalist trash "people" will die lonely and full of regret for being too coward and selfish to have kids and will serve as a lesson to future generations.
Death is the answer.
It is a problem, quantity eventually turns into quality, just look at India and China. High numbers will rule the future. If your ethnic group isn't numerous and breeding, it will be superseded by more relevant groups, using means of economical pressure. Closing the borders is just winning time.
this guy gets it
young populations throughout history have always gotten decimated by war and famine and they always recover, its self correcting
also when you actually look at individual localities, you see that there are places within the country where people are having plenty of kids and the trend is totally reversed
go to any moderately sized city in japan and youll see a staggering amount of young mothers with 2 or more kids, pregnant young women everywhere
im half japanese and my moms friends all have grandchildren who i met recently, i went to a lunch in hiroshima city on a weekday and the whole restaurant was filled with stay at home moms with their kids, i saw more mothers walking around than i could count
so just looking at the nation as a whole is also not accurate, places with high economic activity have lots of kids/young people
You are truly stupid. My point was that blacks have children despite living in horrible conditions, so the whole "but much economy" is a laughable cope from a domesticated population that is too used to comfort and cannot stand burdens.
For most people throughout history that were living in horrible conditions, having children improved their standard of living. I don't know how you don't know this already
I can go to albania or turkey and buy a bride for a few K dollars.
People do it. And those young women usually sit at home and are mothers and housewives.
They cook, clean, take of children and are essentially role-playing the same role their mothers did during their childhood and upbringing.
Meanwhile I can go to Novi Sad or to Budapest or to croatia and snatch some westernized woman of tinder or in a night club to get her drunk or coked up and to fuck her for the night and never see her again.
Because that's what she wants.
Even a chad that's rich can tell you how some slipped from his fingers like that.
Because it's what they think they can do from 16 to 36 or even past that.
>I’m pretty sure China is going to do this
Why do you western larpers live your auth fantasies so vivaciously through my country
Like the frenchie said, the costs of raising a child would make almost any tax increase look like nothing
Unless you want you introduce a tax so high it bankrupts your average person, great job in running a country then