Our greatest ally
Our greatest ally
Connor Wilson
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Chase Garcia
True!
Sebastian Anderson
indeed
Adrian Garcia
should've bought our shit instead of from the gooks
Michael Cooper
true
Thomas Turner
and wait for the next 20 years until you manage to produce it and at the end you will decide not to sell it to us because you will have good relations with Russia again
Leo Gray
Die Normalisierung der Beziehung mit Polen und der Nato und EU-Beitritts Polen waren die größten Fehler der Bundesrepublik und ihre größte Schande.
Blake Cox
you sure?
Josiah Morris
dont worry, they'll probably buy your stuff too
the great modernisation is just getting started
Matthew Williams
Polinsky? More like Brolinsky.
Easton Sullivan
no, ask for the companies to build factories in Poland too
German defense companies are building factories in Hungary and Lithuania for way smaller orders than what Poland now bought from Korea, they would've done the same for Poland without doubt for that kind of order
your government only bought from them instead of us because it doesn't like our government
but you should order within EU and NATO to support allied arms industry and keep the revenues here, they also partly end up in your pockets again with EU redistributions
could've ordered from other EU/NATO cunts too, not just Germany
I doubt it. Your government really dislikes ours
at least you're buying Italian helicopters, that's good
shouldn't buy Turkish drones either, they may be good for the price but Turkey is a shit country ruled by a retard who shouldn't be given money
Nicholas Howard
but regarding Turkey, Germans sells them submarines, so I'm not blaming Poland for ordering drones from them. Just wish the west in general was tougher on Turkey.
Andrew Carter
> our greatest ally
so was 1939 just a vacation
Henry Davis
>Your government really dislikes ours
governments change. next elections won't be so fruitful for pis
Nathan Brown
let the bygones be bygones
Levi Edwards
> than what Poland now bought from Korea, they would've done the same for Poland without doubt for that kind of order
But we need stuff NOW and America can give us their tanks from their own supplies immediately.
>your government only bought from them instead of us because it doesn't like our government
Germany proved to be not trustable, that's your own fault. It's not like Biden was so cool with Poland's conservative stance on LGBT and he generally criticized us as well but when shit hit the fan America at least could put all disputes aside and cooperate for the common good.
Another thing is that Germany is simply too dependent on Russia to be trustable with military, because they can simply sell us for cheaper gas. Meanwhile our geopolitical interests are in line with American interests so obviously it makes sense for us to rely upon them the most.
Not to mention Germans don't really see Poland as a partner.
I'm not OP btw, I don't agree with him obviously
Nicholas Roberts
just "bro"? i dont think so
Ryan Myers
t.Donald Tusk
Brandon Allen
Hi Donald
Gabriel Flores
Sexinsky?
Michael Jenkins
>I really like Germany but he still has a crush on Russia. What should I do?
Isaac Morales
Who draws this garbage?
Connor Roberts
Sex
Jeremiah Brown
People
M-maybe...
Evan Butler
>But we need stuff NOW
no you don't need stuff now, Russia is busy in Ukraine and there are enough NATO forces in eastern Europe to repel a potential Russian attack
also the orders from Korea will take a few years too to be delivered
>America can give us their tanks from their own supplies immediately.
that's great, I'm not complaining about that, but about your orders from Korea
>Germany proved to be not trustable, that's your own fault.
how was Germany not trustworthy? Germany didn't promise to deliver you weapons immediately.
>Another thing is that Germany is simply too dependent on Russia to be trustable with military, because they can simply sell us for cheaper gas.
1) Poland imported a ton of energy from Russia too before the invasion
2) I agree it was dumb that Germany got so dependent on Russia for its energy
3) Germany did participate in the sanctions, supports Ukraine, and sents troops and equipment to support NATO in the east despite that meaning an energy crisis for us. So your claim that we would sell you out is nonsense.
Robert Hernandez
, who should be in a mental hospital or under the age of 14. We've been trying to wipe eachother out for 1000 years and applying this kawai frenemy is just retarded and disrespectful.
Owen Gonzalez
fur deutschland
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Caleb Russell
>Russia is busy in Ukraine
this war can end in 3 months while to get equipment produced by Germany we would need to wait years.
>and there are enough NATO forces in eastern Europe to repel a potential Russian attack
no one knows this
>but about your orders from Korea
Korea offered cheaper and faster supplies + offset as well. We are going to create a new Korean-Polish tank based on K2
Simply Korean offer was better and Korea is generally more reliable. We have bad experiences with modernization of Leopards.
>1) Poland imported a ton of energy from Russia too before the invasion
Yes but obviously in case of war we have no choice if Russia decides to cut them off. Meanwhile if Germany is given a choice - whether to help Poland and get all resources from Russia immediatelly cut off or not help Poland and keep trading with Russia - who knows what Germany would choose? Germany doesn't really have a consistent policy towards Russia, it changes along with different governments.
>2) I agree it was dumb that Germany got so dependent on Russia for its energy
So now you're paying for your stupidity with lack of orders from Poland.
> So your claim that we would sell you out is nonsense.
for now Russia didn't cut off anything to Germany yet and maybe that's a reason why German help for Ukraine was so slow and so small. But obviously if Russia decided to invade Poland then things could go further and Germany could really face total cut-off in case of helping Poland.
Nathan Martin
>Why doesn't he want my tanks? And why did he choose Korea? He wants to make me jealous, doesn't he?
Brandon Morales
>no, ask for the companies to build factories in Poland too
you're fucking retarded, no westoid country will share technology with us, cretin. Especially Germany, which is just about the most vampiric state one can imagine.
Alexander Phillips
there's no need to be upset
Jack Rogers
So German are NTRed by Korean.
Leo Cooper
I love Korea
Jordan Lewis
>1) Poland imported a ton of energy from Russia too before the invasion
Germany fucking cucked all alternatives of gas to Europe, built no lng terminals and planned to get rich by being a hydrogen and gas middleman
your scam was such: use EU to make hydrogen impossible to be viable in the union then pipe it down from Russia along with cheap gas. Kill all energy security (atom le bad) in the union and have everyone pay you just to function.
Germany works in tandem with Russia to sand down Eastern Europe to a stump and then dumb Germans are incredulous about it. Sad.
Henry Williams
Dictator but competent
Juan Russell
>this war can end in 3 months while to get equipment produced by Germany we would need to wait years.
you need to wait years for the equipment you ordered from Korea too, that's why I said you should've ordered from an EU/NATO ally instead, not necessarily Germany.
>and there are enough NATO forces in eastern Europe to repel a potential Russian attack
>no one knows this
yes we do know this, especially considering how Russia is performing in Ukraine
>Korea offered cheaper and faster supplies + offset as well.
I doubt your gov even seriously asked western companies. I read that K2 is among the most expensive tanks there are
>We are going to create a new Korean-Polish tank based on K2
no, it's just gonna be a slightly modified K2. K2PL. Same as you had with the Leo 2, Leo 2PL.
>Korea is generally more reliable
they're neither EU nor NATO, not allied, and do military tech sharing with Russia. They don't participate in the sanctions against Russia either.
>Meanwhile if Germany is given a choice - whether to help Poland and get all resources from Russia immediatelly cut off or not help Poland and keep trading with Russia - who knows what Germany would choose?
no this is not in doubt at all. Germany already repeatedly confirmed it stands by its alliance commitments, sent troops east, is supporting Ukraine, and sanctioning Russia despite the energy crisis.
>for now Russia didn't cut off anything to Germany yet
do you not follow the news at all? Russia is only delivering 20% at this point and will likely cut them off entirely soon.
Italy already built a helicopter factory in Poland and Germany would certainly do the same for tanks if you asked - it's doing the same in Hungary for a way smaller order and Germany is definitely more critical of Orban than of your PiS government.