I just marathoned the sequel trilogy and although it's terrible I'm surprised that The Last Jedi gets so much hate...

I just marathoned the sequel trilogy and although it's terrible I'm surprised that The Last Jedi gets so much hate, it's the only one of them with a bit of creativity and some parts that are actually worth watching.
Do people hate it simply because it shits all over Luke's legacy? Because I feel like they were already written into a corner with The Force Awakens and Luke hiding himself away, it's not like they could have Luke go "yeah you found me and I'm all better now lol let's get into epic lightsaber battles with Kylo Ren and Snoke".

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Luke should've been the main baddie

some of the shots look cool
movie is still shit though

>It's Hoth, except salt!
>creativity

you're the audience that Disney loves.

Yes people hate it simply because it shits all over Luke's legacy. They whine about George ruining their childhoods with midichlorians, of course they're going to whine about their short person demigod hero showing a moment of weakness.

>I just marathoned the sequel trilogy
Why? You enjoy watching garbage that's aimed at brainlets?

what creativity?

For something aimed at brainlets the brainlets sure have a hard time getting it

it's well directed and meditation scene is pretty enjoyable imo

Basically it’s supposed to be the middle act of a trilogy and severs every possible plot thread, while shitting on the canon.
People forget Star Wars fans generally embraced Force Awakens, and there used to be endless fan theories and speculation. Then Johnson killed all that with a smile on his face.

It was supposed to cut down all the bullshit built up in the first movie so that the third episode could deal with post-apocalyptic regrowth. Did you not see the Evangelion rebuilds? Oh wait, brainlets hate those movies too. And the fourth one probably undid everything the brainlets hated, begging them to come back to the theaters. I didn't watch it.

The opening fight scene is one of the only Star Wars space fights that actually shows interesting strategy and balancing different factors
That also leads into an interesting mutiny story with Poe
Also having Kylo Ren be the product of Luke's momentary weakness finally gives him some character instead of just "I am.... le evil!!" and the idea that he could still be saved from that
I liked Luke stalling for time at the end with a projection as well.
This is compared to TFA, which just copies a lot of shit from the OT without doing anything new, and ROS, which is even more creatively bankrupt.

However I do agree there's a lot of shit in there, like the entire casino part and the elite haxxer known as Benicio del Toro, those are some of the worst scenes of the trilogy

>severs every possible plot thread
What did TFA even offer the next movie? It just has shitty stuff like a discount Darth Vader (he even has a similar mask, wow so ebin) and a shitty clone (literally) of the Emperor and a discount Luke Skywalker (but now she's a female and has a posh English accent despite being a rough and tumble scavenger!). And it's predicated on the story of finding Luke Skywalker who we know is in hiding, because somehow one man can fix a massive intergalactic war against an empire which can destroy entire planets.
>while shitting on the canon
How? You mean the shitty comics?

>new bombers that blow themselves up (there were already Y wings)
>throws away lightsaber
>blue milk
>X wing is underwater again
>Hoth planet ripoff with ripoff AT-ATs
>space fuel
>landing on a planet only to lose and run off again
>purple haired bitch that does nothing but die and lose a key spacecraft
>unreliable hyperspeed weapon somehow works
>Rey returns from training to lift some rocks
>creativity

Almoat forgot:
>find locksmitch
>wait thats not the locksmith
>here's another guy that can locksmitch
>oh wait he's a traitor
>Phasma dies a Disney death
>damn that whole segment for nothing but at least we saved the space horses and left the slave kids to work to death

>space fuel
What's wrong with that? Finally they put some rules and stakes in a world where, whenever the resistance is facing insurmountable odds you know they'll escape anyway
>throws away lightsaber
>blue milk
>landing on a planet only to lose and run off again
Literally what is wrong with this stuff

It's not Luke's characterization that bothers me. I like parts of it, even (I like the personality Hamill imbues the character). What bothers me are way the movie uses humor, Rey's role in the story, the somewhat out of place flashback sequences, the prequels-tier B-plot, and its bloated runtime. It's a smug movie with a somewhat inept screenplay. Great cinematography (best looking Star Wars film since Empire), but otherwise it's a chore to watch.

Yeah I totally agree, but it's still better than the totally uninspired first movie and all around terrible third one

This is really the worst part. There is one guy in the galaxy who can crack the code, but when that falls through there happens to be another guy in the same building who can do it.

>the prequels-tier B-plot
I was thinking the exact same thing, the casino stuff is bizarre and feels much more like something from the prequels.
>Rey's role in the story
Tbf TLJ inherited all the terrible actors from the first movie, I think Rey is actually the worst of them. It's hard to orient a movie around someone so unconvinving.
>bloated runtime
fucking this

yes, people basically hated it for portraying Luke is such a negative light, even though him becoming jaded and abandoning the force is a justifiable direction. i agree TLJ isn't that bad though but it is shit. the entire trilogy is just shit. shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit