I hear the new Top Gun movie refuses to kowtow to China by showing the flag of Taiwan. Is this true? Does the script not give a fuck about the Chinese market?
I'll happily pay to see it today and even buy movie snacks if it disrupts the self-censorship western media exhibits.
It plays it very safe. There's also no enemy in the movie. Just attack this place because we said so.
Easton Allen
It doesn't come up either way. The jacket is only changed in the Chinese version, if that's what you're talking about. The enemy country is very clearly meant to be Iran but they never even say that much.
Jackson Nelson
What the fuck, so they just bomb a sandnigger country and maybe have a dogfight with rusting Tomcats from the 1970s?
Cameron Allen
the enemy are heavily implied to be either russian or iranian
Nathan Perry
It's about preparing for and executing a dambusters-esque raid plan. Not-Iran has an exceptionally capable IADS around the site and inexplicably access to SU-57s, to avoid a tensionless 'lel we have the upper hand time to bomb some brown people'.
Jason Davis
It was a retardedly unrealistic scenario especially the excuse for using the F18s instead of the F35s but it was still a kino movie. Much better too for the majority of people who don't know anything about air combat and tactics.
Adam Cook
I went in accepting that any justification for actual tension was going to be inherently a little contrived. Though the Super Hornets were an accessibility thing as much as anything. USN wasn't about to lend then F-35Cs they'd only just accepted at time of filming and there's no two seat variant. A ton of the shooting was done with the actors riding shotgun in the WSO seat with a real naval aviator.
Xavier Wright
The CCP fears the Scientology
Hudson Ross
I fully understand the reasons behind it in terms of making the movie, and to be fair they probably did the best they could with trying to explain it, but those limitations did require suspension of disbelief.
Alternatively they could have set it during an earlier period before any 5th gen aircraft were in service and had dogfights between F18s and Mig29s or Flankers. Maybe even early 2000s when the Tomcats were still in service.
Christian Walker
True, true. Either way I'm glad that my girl the Super Hornet finally got the hero plane treatment, and in probably the most impressive production of its kind ever.
No they go up against 5th gen fighters and SAMs not to mention a hella trench run. Location reminds me more of Bosnia in Behind Enemy Lines but they never say.
Anthony Jenkins
His jacket had the Flag of Japan and Taiwan in the movie. The film does a great job of keeping the enemy ambiguous.
Logan Barnes
>Nuclear development facility in need of being bombed >Has Tomcats It's Iran. Even if the former wasn't enough, Iran is literally the only country on Earth that still has airworthy Tomcats.
Nathan Phillips
They outright say it's an Iranian facility a few times
Ayden Evans
there is the taiwanese flag there yeah, but like others have said they don’t name any names with who the enemies and allies are
Josiah King
To be fair the original didn't either.
Josiah Thompson
Just like in the first movie then.
Julian Collins
>Iran is now a snow covered mountain range with a dense forest.
Juan Jenkins
does the average bat-flavoured popcorn munching chinaman looking to be entertained for ~2hrs before going back to the foxconn factory for his 20hr shift before tossing himself off the roof on his 5 min lunch break even really care about this shit?
Lucas Rodriguez
Yeah it's nice to see. Independence Day showed off the legacy Hornets to the public and now the Superhornet gets immortalised in one of the greatest movies of all time. Air Force / F16 Viper fags on suicide watch as their only movie is Iron Eagle.
Julian Perez
just like the real US armed forces
Landon Rogers
Just like the tropical jungles of Russia. Here we operate them as a land-based plane. Yet another argument for why the RAAF was right to go with the Legacy/Super Hornet over the Viper.
I reckon it was a mashup between Iran and North Korea but North Korea could actually afford 5th gen aircraft.
Isaac Morris
Didn't they edit it out and then back in when the movie wasn't gonna be in china anyway or something?
David Cook
I haven't actually seen anything confirming it but I think they changed the patch specifically for the Chinese version. The original is meant to be his father's, the replacement also changed the dates to imply it's instead for an exercise that Cruise's character went on himself.
Kayden Robinson
Iran is a huge country with much of it extending into central Asia. of course it gets a lot of snow in winter. Tehran gets tonnes of it is this really that surprising to everyone?
Joshua Barnes
In an ideal situation we would have gone with F-15Cs for air superiority fighters as well as probably the F-15E Strike Eagles for multi-role/ground attack (also very long ranges which is handy for a massive place like Australia, but we are small enough military and budget wise that we had to pick a one size fits all plane and the Hornet met that requirement fine.
Owen King
Yeah, the consolidated airframe makes the choice trickier and I think the current path of Hornets into F-35s is the best bang for buck. Means every pilot and airframe is available for every possible mission, giving you a much more flexible force than if you specialised.
Easton Powell
I only know about fighter jets because of Ace Combat.