She'll die before she'll tell you anything!

>She'll die before she'll tell you anything!
Why is this random Imperial so defensive of Leia? And right to Vader's face. You'd think he'd be worried about Vader killing him.

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The senate had just been freshly dissolved. The rank and file were still accustomed to laws being a thing.

episode IV isn't canon anymore. Time to tell new stories.

Imperial officers are basically dead men walking anyway. Vader kills kids, families and officers right in front them all the time. They just shrug it off and accept it as part of their regime.

Vader isn't a "tell me bad news I kill you" type. He only kills fuck ups like Ozel and and Needa. This dude is on Vader's personal star destroyer and he's giving Vader honest advice.

Why was this guy allowed to be such a cocky shit to Vader? The very fact that Vader threatened him and then faced no punishment from him afterwords shows that he is considered lower in rank. So by that definition he shouldn't have been able to talk to him like that in the first place.

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Vader respects balls.

He's one of Tarkin's underlings. Tarkin lets him get strangled for a bit to teach him a lesson.

When Tarkin was still alive Vader was a dog on a leash essentially. It wasn’t until after the Death Star blew up that Vader became truly unhinged. At that point nobody besides the Emperor himself could hold him accountable. The imperial navy then became his personal tool for finding Luke. The actual objectives and interests of the empire itself became secondary. I would assume the officer class knew he was doing this, but had no means of subverting him out of fear of his powers.

It makes even less sense when pic related shows he's even lower ranking than Krennic, who was shitting himself when he had to meet Vader, and also got strangled. Disney Canon is shit anyway. In my eyes the only people in the empire who could legitimately give shit to Vader are Tarkin and obviously The Emperor.

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Imperials where able to talk to Vader humanly in episode iv. It was Spielberg who introduced the ridiculous executions of his own men and made the empire cartoon villains.

please keep star wars discussion to your containment thread

Because in ANH Darth Vader is just a lackey, which is why Palpatine can order him around in the room where he force chokes that one guy.

Vader is a tool used to solve problems, not a leader. In ANH he's basically an enforcer. Then the sequels happened and he was actually 2nd in command the entire time or whatever.

A lot of Star Wars stuff makes sense if you look at ANH as a standalone film that was never intended to have sequels, but made a shitload of money and got them anyway, which is basically what happened.

Fuck off. We have multiple threads about documentaries about trannies and Dunc and every other fucking thing. We can multitask on Star Wars too.

You shouldn't have to read a book to know what's going on

>and made the empire cartoon villains.
They literally blow an entire planet with the Death Star.

Vader only killed people who fuck up, and ESB Vader is essentially Vader having the worst week since he became Vader.

This guy's just advising Vader, which is what a good officer should do.

They blew up a planet with civilians on it (even if it was as much a rebel hotbed as Tarkin claimed), just because Tarkin was assmad that Leia bullshitted him. He erased an entire world and its people for petty personal reasons under the justification that it was required to stop an insurgent movement that at the time had only successfully done a handful of raids. The Empire was always cartoonishly evil. The destruction of Alderaan wasn't some brilliant machievellian move like Empirefags on the internet claim. It was a moronic decision that only fanned the flames of Rebellion even harder, and led to more deaths in the long run.

Alderaan was working with the rebels and Tarkin made an example of them. It wasn't about being a cartoon villain, it was about letting every single planet in the universe know that the Empire now had a weapon that could destroy an entire planet, will not tolerate anyone who supports the rebellion, and that you had better get with the fucking program or you are next.

>ESB Vader is essentially Vader having the worst week since he became Vader.
Maybe one week he had a really itchy ass crack from one of his burns, that he just couldn't get rid of.

Which is still a stupid move, to say nothing of the villany of the situation. Tarkin had no proof outside of Leia, a senator, was from Alderaan. Even if the Death Star hadn't been destroyed, Tarkin just set the precedent that the Empire wipe out an entire planet for arbitrary reasons.

The Empire is made up of people from various planets, and now every single Moff, Officer, Stormtrooper, and fucking janitor now has to cope with the fact that their planet can be erased at a moment's notice. This does not engender loyalty to the government, and too much fear will lead to fatalism. If you wipe out an entire people on a fucking HUNCH, there is no incentive to be loyal.

Even if it crushed the rebellion, the Empire would have buckled under its own weight like every government that relies on terror alone. You can't just beat everything with a stick like an ape, you need to offer a carrot as well. Again, this isn't some brilliant play by Tarkin. It's a goddamn hissy fit with disastrous consequences.

And it is cartoonishly evil to murder an entire planet, a people, a culture, because they've been supporting people who have been hit and running your military.

Retcons leading to Vader becoming a larger and more active part in dealing with Imperial High Command. Star wars has changed from the days of the original trilogy, and you just have to accept that everything afterwards is just riffing off of it and not truly canonical extensions.

The stick is a space station that can blow a planet up

The carrot is we don't use it to blow your planet up