I got filtered hard

I got filtered hard.
I get the ending but everything else makes me feel like a brainlet.

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That's a sincere reaction but keep in mind that allusion and allegory are sometimes there for you to interpret them, the puzzle is not necessarily airtight. Draw your conclusions, read what's been written by others about the movie, it's full of tiny riddles and tips and the version we got was not the original cut, which runs 4 h I think and which I'd very much like to watch. Perhaps it'll be released eventually because UTSL became a legitimate cult movie

This movie sucks dick. Ripped off Inherent Vice and not in a good way. Just watch Inherent Vice

Don't worry, you're not involved in any Hollywood inner circles or secret societies so the only thing you can do is guess and assume, like the rest of the people who comment on the film.

>UTSL became a legitimate cult movie
It's very good, has an interesting message and a challenging way to present it. It's also peak millenial kino, of the kind that will feel nostalgic when watching it in 10 years.
I watched it back to back with Inherent Vice by pure coïncidence and they work so well as a duology that my mind actually linked them together forever and I understood some of each movie's message through the other.

The only thing it has in common with IV (an even better movie, I agree) is the neonoir setting and pop tropes.
They both belong to the same subgenre, which is great btw and include several excellent movies from Sunset Boulevard to Starry Eyes and Mulholland Dr

Why is there a face in the palm trees?

Look at the bubbles

>you're not involved in any Hollywood inner circles or secret societies
Neither is David Robert Mitchell, he's just some guy

Are you joking? Everything is ripped off from Inherent Vice and Pynchon. The entire cinematography. To entire scenes. Even the music is stolen from Inherent Vice lol. The music....... Missing girl is involved with a cult of old dudes sitting around in white robes. I could list about a hundred more things ripped off

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>not the original cut, which runs 4 h
God I want to see that, it’s criminal how badly A24 cucked this film

It happens in the same city as well, only 20 years apart. What I took from both is that liberal / hippie / drugs / hipster subcultures in the US were manufactured. Which they were. Glowies funded Warhol (some glownigger outright admitted it a few years ago) and similar "subversive" and "counter" cultures, diatributed LSD, heroin, cocaine and crack, etc, etc.
All in all everything is the way it is by design, counterculture itself is inherently part of the US culture and serves a purpose of channelling potentially violent movements into benign subgroups focused on aesthetics, lifestyles and shallow consumerism of another kind.
Not a communist btw, before mutts start foaming at me from the mouth.

Yet the movie indicates a great knowledge of goings-on, and it's stilted release further suggests he was onto something.

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And? Everything is copied from everything. It's not like Inherent Vice is much better, much older or a blockbuster that made bank so the guy tried replicating it.

Holy shit this thread is glowing.

Yeah, it has a hallucinatory effect in the way it places the mc in these settings and he keeps meeting people and having odd conversations with them and it does have specific connections w millennial culture

Sam was supposed to be 33? Shit, I thought he was like 24

Inherent Vice is similar but with boomers, which is why it clicks less with me. Also UTSL comes off as less pretentious, probably because the director isn't as well established as PTA nor the main actor as dick sucked as Joaquim Phoenix

What's in the bubbles?

>Everything is copied from everything.
Sure but it's a shameless rip off.
>It's not like Inherent Vice is much better
It is though. UTSL is vapid. Nothing of substance intellectually. It's conspiracy porn for midwits. For people who love Netflix originals and based on conversations with people who like this movie that seems to fit 100%. Then again we are on Any Forums not /lit/ so I don't blame you.

It's Foucault's Pendulum done right. The more you know about the occult, child trafficking rings, MKUltra, the more you fill in the missing pieces in the film. But ultimately, you're just making shit up.

>UTSL is vapid. Nothing of substance intellectually. It's conspiracy porn for midwits.
same applies to IV

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Pynchon did create this specific type of conspiracy/pop/neonoir narrative.
IV,Vineland and V. have similar plots/energy, But there's nothing in UTSL that resembles them in a way that feels like plagiarism, and it isn't also the 1st movie to be inspired by this type of plot/setting: Southland Tales tried to emulate Pynchon in a way that was much less fresh than UTSL.
There's no such thing as "entire scenes" or music from IV being lifted and used in UTSL, you're reaching or confused.
>Missing girl is involved with a cult of old dudes sitting around in white robes.
Not the 1st or last time this trope was used.

Inherent Vice is based on reality though. Pynchon himself was involved in similar situations and everything going on the background is not an invention. It's based on reality. CIA, Heroin being involved with local PD and the elite. Everything is true in the movie. UTSL was just conspiracytard fanfiction porn. Straight up retarded scenes with no truth.

>UTSL was just conspiracytard fanfiction porn
You don't think music that makes it to radio is made, produced and hand picked by the same people generation after generation?
You don't think there are two types of people, those that participate in media and the general zeitgeist and those that are subject to it?

Everything I'm saying is true. Never My Love was used in Inherent Vice and UTSL. Weird such an obscure song was used in such a similar movie. I'm sure it was just a coincidence huh.....

I love this movie. You feel like you actually go on a journey of sorts and Andrew Garfield was a perfect cast for the role.

Did Andrew Garfield fuck your crush im high school? Were you mad at your ex / gf for commenting on how cute he was at some point?
I've noticed that many times when someone has such a relentless hate for a piece of media there's some bruised ego underneath it at some level. You don't argue like someone that didn't like the movie, you argue like someone that hates something about that movie with passion, and just being disappointed at plagiarism wouldn't motivate you enough to hate it.

>a certain facet is reminiscent of another movie
>ergo the movie you’re watching is ruined
Lmao really? That could be said for almost every movie.