Are you gonna draw or whistle Happy Birthday?

Are you gonna draw or whistle Happy Birthday?

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Eastwood is mild cringe, John Wayne 4 ever

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wayne is a little pussy compered with dollar trilogy eastwood

Wayne was a chud and lacked screen presence, he relied on an overtly strong armed, aggressive machismo to get across his tough guy act, whereas Clint was able to communicate all off the above and then some with merely a look, stone faced and stoic in the face of danger.

Wayne is the personification of the ideal American man, a built-fat tough guy who gets everything done by virtue of being nothing but bigger and louder.

Eastwood was a baby-faced, beta backed bitchboi who build a career off movies that slander the spirit of Americana. He became pretty based as he got older though. Bronco Billy might qualify as one of the most endearingly based movies of all time.

I don't think that was considered the American ideal back then as much as it's stereotyped today

That is hard to say, Wayne's movies have a far more direct lineage from contemporary Western media that was consumed in the late 1800s. Which would be a progression of:
>Wild West live shows
>Dime Novels and Early Comics
>Radio Dramas
>Classic Hollywood Westerns

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Let’s compromise.

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Happy Birthday Clint, thank you for playing the coolest character in cinema (he’s literally me) and making some fine westerns. You are the last bastion of masculinity this country has

his movies literally tore down america you facking imbicile

Too based for this world

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You have other stars for that. I think America then would relate to Henry Fonda or James Stewart more.
I can't deny Wayne as the most pivotal western star but sometimes he's hard to take seriously.
He was best at playing belligerent drunks for sure.

they were products of their time - an America that was becoming increasingly cynical and jaded after its repeated failures and humiliations on the world stage in the 60s and 70s that utterly deflated myths of American greatness and invincibility. Clint was following a general trend in the western genre, which became more violent and gritty due to cultural changes and the desire to actually see something different. Spaghetti westerns rode this trend as well, and if you ask me they were always better than the traditional US westerns, they felt more dynamic and true to the actual American west rather than glossy pantomimes.

western thread
post your favorites

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This movie here is a lot of fun, Western/Comedy, rare breed of kino.

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You might have an argument to make if these movies were a product of American culture, but they weren't. They were made by Europoors who did not even have a surface level understanding of the mythos they were attempting to repackage and to sell back to Americans. Which is not to say I hate Spaghetti Westerns or anything, that disconnect and the emphasis on minimal dialog to make dubbing cheaper does give them an aura of surreal mystique that has its own special appeal.

>they were products of their time
No, they werent. Movies like slow west prove how far their pozzing reached

You're a dying breed, user.

I don't think this film is very obscure. The gravity that Henry Fonda brings make this film very memorable for me
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Fuck off fag. Westerns were the capeshit of there day. People were getting bored of cartoon westerns by 60s! Spaghetti westerns offered rawness and kept a dead genre alive for a few more years

>rawness
more like overly bleak and socialist westerns