Star Wars the force

The force is the worse thing in all of writing noit the telekinesis stuff the obeying the force.

I literally have no idea how to put all of this into a picture so here I go.

The jedi etc obey the force,
>search your feelings you know it to be true.
>You do not need a targeting computer simply trust your fee fees
>Fee Fees They are never wrong.
This is the direct opposite of star trek where they are logical and use strategy or logic.... or what the stupid writers think logic looks like.

Either way everyone is a slave to this creepy force and what it wants you to do.

So tell me is the force reliable ?
Or not ?

Lets look at this why did Luke try to kill Ben ?
The force told him he is EEEVVVIIILLLL.

Ok so is the force wrong here ?
If you say no then he has every right to kill the kid since force fee fees = never wrong.

If the force is wrong then you literally have the force as the enemy of humanity it being schizophrenia + super powers.

So why does Ben star fighting Luke ?
And here is where the "muh force says" literally explodes the plot.

Facts.
Luke has his light saber on him 24/7.
So seeing him with a light saber on is not a surprise.

Why does Ben start a fight ?
>b-b-b- Luke has his saver turned on ?
OK.

Any reason for him to do this and not want to kill the kid ?
A) There is empire, space pirates , about to lad or bombard his position he can say
>Get up we will be attacked in minutes take everything you need

B) Luke says
> I'm searching for my keys and using this as a flashlight. Go to sleep.

C)
>Sorry misfire on light saber, will turn it off now

D)
>Aw shit I forgot to turn my saber off after day of training, did not expect you to sleep now.

All of them explain him having the saber up so on a logical level Ben should ask a question before starting to fight Luke.

So the scene is bad.

1/2

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>Lets look at this why did Luke try to kill Ben ?
not canon

2/2

However try to explain this with the force.

The force
>Told Ben Luke will kill him despite Luke not going to do it in the end.
>The force also told Luke to kill Ben and that Ben is EVVVIILLL despite this not being true.

>Ok however it is only the new movies.
The prequels have the same problems with the force being wrong.
>Clouded the force is.
>Muh brng balance to the force meme
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>OK however the OT is great.
Not really the scene of search your feelings you know it is true is really stupid writing.
No proof only magi Fee Fees

The force is terrible from a writing perspective.

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you've never read Tao Te Ching? the force is just a repackaging of an eastern religion that's been around for 2400 years. your post just boils down to "religion is stupid", so i hope you're not christian or something equally stupid

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The point is that the force is a terrible plot idea.

>disneyshit
opinion invalidated
>The force is terrible from a writing perspective.
only if you consume dogshit media and think about said dogshit media like a braindead mongoloid.

Hey look this one brings religion into this debate remember this.
> just a repackaging of an eastern religion t
Ah yes street shitter superstition objectively worse then anything else.
> Tao Te Ching?
NO.
>your post just boils down to "religion is stupid",
I'm an atheist.

>so i hope you're not christian
I despise Christians. However other religions are more retarded.

the plot idea behind star wars is rising hero in a sci-fi fantasy world with fantasy shit happening.
the force is just one more mysticism in a big universe and is just the equivalent of magic.
from a writing perspective, it is completely neutral.

>from a writing perspective, it is completely neutral.
No.
The point is not that the force gives super power like telekinesis.

The point is that the force is a cope out shit for every bad nonsense writing.
Why did Palpatine kill the jedi ? Because the force willed it.
Why did Luke defeat the emperor ? Because the force willed it.

You can replace
>Because the force willed it.
With
>Because I the writer say so
And it is literally the same.

And the force literally being a deus ex machine is bad.
Oh Luke can do the shot because muh force now.

Also it gets retarded instead of writing a believable plot how Vader can prove he is his father we get
>Trust your fee fees
And this resolves that.

So the force before never told luke he is his father. However then in that moment decided to tell it to him.

Literally trash writing. And bad real life lessons.

they look so fucking gay in that pic

>Why did Palpatine kill the jedi ? Because the force willed it.
>Why did Luke defeat the emperor ? Because the force willed it.
[citation needed]
>Oh Luke can do the shot because muh force now.
no, because telekinesis through sheer willpower
>a believable plot how Vader can prove he is his father
or have magic in the universe where force users can "sense" great power or relatives.
>o the force before never told luke he is his father. However then in that moment decided to tell it to him.
vader literally told him, not the force
literally trash bait

The force is what makes Star Wars good.

>Why did Palpatine kill the jedi ? Because the force willed it.
no because order 66
>Why did Luke defeat the emperor ? Because the force willed it.
no, vader killed the emperor.

>le subversion
Hella epic, my sistah.

>telekinesis
>I literally think telekinesis is not part of the force
Post non force users who have telekinesis I wait.
>vader literally told him, not the force
And the force verified it.

It is literally magic fee fees in your head.

>or have magic in the universe where force users can "sense" great power or relatives.
Ah yes the power to magically look into the script.
Magic fee fees

>[citation needed]
Implied.

>no because order 66
And the jedi did not sense that he is a ultra powerful dark side user how exactly ?

Oh I see force bla bla and force bla bla.
You can literally write anything and say that the force makes these characters behave like retards plausible.

>I literally think telekinesis is not part of the force
who are you quoting? telekinesis is part of the force. did you read my post?
>And the force verified it.
[citation needed]
>Ah yes the power to magically look into the script.
where? all you posted so far was either completely wrong or made up on the spot.
>Implied.
yes, you have been implying in this dogshit thread from the start, anything else new?

>no, vader killed the emperor.
YES.
Can you not read.
>Luke defeat the emperor
>Luke defeat
>Luke defeat
>defeat
>defeat
>defeat
Can you not read.
He made Vader turn to the light side and kill the emperor.

>And the jedi did not sense that he is a ultra powerful dark side user how exactly ?
hiding your power level
>You can literally write anything
yeah, that applies to everything that was written in the history of mankind. welcome to writing, brainlet.
the force is still completely neutral from a writing standpoint and is only as good or as bad as the writer's ability.

you already forgot about shitting on the force and instead acknowledged that it was luke who convinced vater, who in turn killed the emperor.
I rest my case

>[citation needed]
YIKES.
Stop trolling or take your meds.

Why are Star Wars fanboys the worse there is ?

>And the force verified it.
Lets see
>Search your feeling you know it is true
>Accepts it.

WTF was this ? If the force did not verify his words to be true ????

>telekinesis is part of the force
Your post did say otherwise.

ME:
>Oh Luke can do the shot because muh force now.
You:
>Awchually it was telekinesis not the force
>Inevitable conclusion telekinesis can exist without the force
ME:
>Post non force users who have telekinesis I wait.
YOU:
>who are you quoting? telekinesis is part of the force. did you read my post?
UNREAL ! Take your meds.

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>I rest my case
Good so stop posting in this thread.

>b-b-b-b-b luke convinced him
Presumably using the force
> endless schizo self contradictions.

are you ok, user?

Looking at this pic made me realize Palpatine had two lightsabers in one movie

Are you ?

based

Half of what your saying doesn't make sense or is just plain wrong. Order it by film. What's wrong with the Force in the original film?

No

See:
You can replace
>Because the force willed it.
With
>Because I the writer say so
And it is literally the same.

Also it gets retarded instead of writing a believable plot how Vader can prove he is his father we get
>Trust your fee fees
And this resolves that.

Lets talk about the most stupid moment in the OT. The force can verify things like Vader being the father.

>Also it gets retarded instead of writing a believable plot how Vader can prove he is his father we get
Literally not in the original film.
Have you not watched it or is English not your first language?

>Literally not in the original film.
Post the exact clip on youtube. Star Wars fanboys are beyond delusional.

>Literally not in the original film.
I'm talking about Empire strikes back you moron.

>Post the exact clip on youtube.
How can I post the clip of something that's not there, retard?
>HBO begged Lindelhof to make another season but he wouldn't.
Which is not the original film, faggot. Let me ask you again, is English not your first language of haven't you watched the original Star Wars?