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RATE THE EPISODE

Lalo should've shot the two of them instead and make Howard his lawyer

Worst season

Torrents up yet?

Kim and jim are unironically the biggest niggers in modern television

better than any of breaking bad.

This hurt me way more than Hank. I'm utterly defeated.

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For over an hour, faggot.

:(

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I can’t believe we’re not getting anymore Howardkino… anyone else gonna rewatch season 1?

Howiebros..... we lost

Lalochads... we won

breaking bad sisters
we lost

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The winner takes it all...

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9/10
BRAVO VINCE

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8-9/10.
It was kino and eventful. This show suffers from not having the binge format

Pay your respects

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Why did he kill him
Couldn't he just tell him to leave?

retarded contrivance to make redditors type "bravo!"

howard should have built a case over the back half of the season for another court showdown. fuck this gay ass shit.

I called it bros!

Seriously though, even though you faggots spoiled it, I never thought I’d BRAVO VINCE this fucking hard

Is Kim gonna get shot in the head next episode?

Howardbros I don’t feel so good

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howatds not a very good lawyer, he cant even keep his drug habit and pupils under control. also he made an old lady sit in a wheelchair even when she can walk

Why didn't Jimmy just tell Lalo the truth about what happened in the desert in S5?

I hope kim and jimmy end up either dead or in jail

post yfw howard fucking died

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Howard should have shot Lalo and made Kimmy and Jim his lawyer

FUCKING KNEEL

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Howard deserved none of this.
RIP Namast3 man.

>nothing happens x100000
something happens
>it's bad writing AACCKK

>he knows
>Lalo doesnt have time for this shit
>he fucking knows

10/10

>this is the shows main demographic

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Not seeing on my usual trackers, amerimutt.

HOWAAAAAAAARD
LEAVE THE APARTMENT HES COMING
ITS NOT WORTH IT THEY ARENT LISTENING TO YOU
HOWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD

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SAY IT

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DrukBros, pour a little out for our boy Howie tonight

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This was better than Ozymandias. I don't give a fuck.

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What's gonna happen next, bros?

RIP HOWITZER
>NO KIM IN BrBa
KIMMIE IS NEXT
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kek

First 59 minutes: solid gold
Last 60 seconds: solid turd

>KNEEL

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Because he saw him. Can't have someone blurt out that a mustach'd man who looks alot like the cartel guy that got shot walked into Jimmy's apartment.

Then you need to get better trackers.

to see howard bare his soul to his tormentors only to get shot in the head immediately afterwards by a stranger
man its too much
howardbros..............

lol

I unironically hate Jimmy now. Ruined his character.

>feet
>big boobs
>Howard schizo meltdown
>lalo being lalo
this episode has it all!

IMDB SAID WALTER WHITE WAS IN THIS EP I WAS ROBBED

Can we all agree that Kim and Jimmy both deserve to rot in hell after this?

Why weren't Mike's solid guys watching Jimmy

Shit. The whole episode was shit. 90 minutes of filler for a one minute shock with some of the laziest writing i've ever seen and worst acting from Bob and Rhea. Appallling garbage for speedwatching breaking bad adhd rotbrains who think characters getting shock killed is the epitome of good storytelling

GUESS I GOT WHAT I DESERVED

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WHY DID LALO DO IT?

this entire cartel arc ends with a man who shits himself killing gus
yet they try so hard to make gus seem like a badass

I don’t regret anything

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Howard dying due to a completely unrelated reason just makes the entire plan and its underwhelming outcome feel even more pointless

All of this will lead to nothing but them arguing over it a bit, with Jimmy saying that if they hadn't done anything to him a series of coincidences beyond their control or foresight wouldn't have resulted in his death or whatever. It was literally all for nothing, if you edited this entire subplot out you could still reach the same point with a few minor adjustments

Crazy to think that this is good writing to some ""people"" here

could've worked at one point but at this point they've put too much time into the cartel stuff to not have lalo make a big impact in jimmy's plotline with something drastic like killing howard

This nigga is acting like he didn’t react the same way stfu be go back to r*ddit

>HOWARD AND CHUCK: ANGEL ATTORNEYS AT LAW spinoff when?

Pain

Based Howard went out after exposing those soulless and resentful cunts

>big boobs
Who and when?

You're just assuming a lot of shit

Because then he'd wonder how he got out of it what the fuck do you think he'd think? That Saul dodged all the bullets took out a katana and sliced everyone in half?

I NO LONGER FEEL BAD ABOUT SAUL GETTING FUCKED OVER BY WALT AND WHATEVER HAPPENS NEXT WITH KIM

breaking bad trannies invading

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they went to the cover Fring, Mike literally said this

How the fuck are they gonna explain and settle Sandpiper now that Howard is dead
>"Uh he just committed suicide in Jimmy's apartment"

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first chuck and now howard
now i know why everyone thinks saul is a piece of shit scumbag by the time walt meets him

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life is just a bunch of unrelated things with underwhelming outcomes

so once again
BRAVO
A
V
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I take it all back. This episode redeemed the slow burn. I can't believe how masterfully I was kept horrified through the whole episode even before any threat of violence was brought up.

Also, killing Howard brutally on screen with barely any build-up? Unapologetic, unromanticed violence is awesome IMO.

oh well, try not to get shot at your next school shooting user

I'm gonna come out and say it;
This episode is up there with Chicanery.

so kim is kill right?

>howard calls them soulless
>jimmy becomes saul and is a carefree sociopath in just a few short years after watching this occur

wow he was right

he's saul goodman (its all good, man) idiot

He didn’t deserve it…neither did Chuck

Why Brehs why does Vince do this to us

HE FUCKING DID IT

APOLOGIZE

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Why the fuck am I ten times more sad over Howard than I was for Hank? I'm not gonna be able to sleep.

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10/10
Anons will feel big by saying it was any worse than that.

The sweet release

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Howiechads... hold me...

>if only you knew how bad things really were

>tfw

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Chuck is rotting in hell

HE WAS A MAN OF PEACE
HE LOVED EVERYONE
THEN CAME THE DEMONS AND RUINED IT ALL

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Jimmy would not become Saul if he knew Kim was dead. He can justify Howard as Lalo and pin him as a chuck figure but Kim dying would destroy him.
More like they don't have enough money for the vacuum and Jimmy sends Kim off resulting in the kind of numbness that allows someone to become Saul

Jimmy, Kim, and Lalo better all die painful deaths for this bullshit

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BURN IN HELL, GENE

Mike is obviosuly going to clean it up and he officialy disappeared

it was better

Yes

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>booba
>feet
>thrills
>chills
>Lalo youtuber kino
>hard end for Howie

10

What the fuck do you mean? This is what chuck was talking about, his actions have consequences, chimpanzee with a machine gun etc. etc. also the same thing he warned Kim about and now to finally happened.

I am not crazy! I know he swapped those photos. I knew it was the judge. The one with the moustache. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just can’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that Private Investigator to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. Those hookers! Are you telling me that I just have two hookers yelling at me in public? No! He orchestrated it! Jimmy! He defecated through a sunroof! And I wanted him on the team! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own firm! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since he was in the post office, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands off of Kim Wexler! But not our Jimmy! Couldn’t be precious Jimmy! Tapping her raw! And HE gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! And Cliff, you have to stop him, you—

Kim and Jimmy are legit psychopaths. Fucking monsters.

Bros, I take back any criticism I had

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At least... howard is free now...

That was Walter driving, right.
That would be Walt. When he killed Mike, he was acting like a hoodrat, just killing out of petty anger with no thought behind it.
Because then Lalo would be tipped off that Mike saved Jimmy. Mike saved Jimmy so Lalo would make bail, and so Gus' guys could sicario his ass. And if Jimmy talked, Mike would fuck him up.

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HOW DO WE GET OUR REVENGE BROS?

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Mike will clean up the apartment, have Howard moved to the guest house or something and frame it as a suicide.

No doubt they’ll call Mike and he’ll disappear him

>entire season spent on a meandering prank subplot that turns the two main characters into uncharacteristically unlikeable asses
>ends in a shock value death which served no purpose other than to get Kim to leave Jimmy, which she would have done anyways if her character hadn't been assassinated for the sake of this subplot
BRAVO

Lalo is obviously going to watch him and tell him not to inform Mike

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK

10/10. I miss him already.

THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL THE LOSER HAS TO FALL

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let's be honest, it's not possible to hate on season 6 after this

one thing though...
>tease that irene might die from the drug
>don't go through with it
wouldn't it have been awesome?

not after Howard wins his appeal

lol yeah that was a total setup

"Plan and EXECUTION"
nice

>Jimmy/Kim's use their powers and reluctantly frame Howard's death as a suicide
>we watch whatever was left of their souls evaporate as they pull one final scam

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1/10 killed the only decent guy

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Who was in the wrong here?

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But SOMEONE DIED!! SOMEONE DIED!!

IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN RELEVANT AT ALL IN THIS SEASON OTHERWISE, A HECKIN CHARACTER DIED!!

I WAS LIKE "WHAAAAT?" WATCHING THE TV!!

100000/10 VINCE DID IT AGAIN

>tfw all the headers of Hamlin Hamlin McGill are now dead

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Lalo is about to fucking die, user

anyone have the picture I can't find it on google

Just like Nacho did with the people he hated. Epic and BRAVO pilled.

I know it's just what you feel in the moment, but I was legit happy that Jimmy and Kim were put in their place and subsequently scared out of their minds. They deserved it.

this. this is just going back to the show being breaking bad. something like you said is more in tune with the first seasons but then they went with the cartel plotline

he stooped down to Sauls level by hiring the PI
Lalo was a wildcard but Howard didnt deserve it either way

Terrible. You build up Jimmy and Kim's plan to fuck over Howard, only to have him capeshit cartel'd at the end.

>It's not going to go down the way you think it is

Fuck off. It's lazy hack writing, plain and simple. I blame myself for not seeing it coming, especially after Nacho's lazy write-off. I had too much faith in these writers.

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Cause Hank was a prick, and a lot like Walter where only the job mattered.

holy shit they did howard DIRTY
>died with his wife not loving him
>died getting humiliated on his own workplace
>died never getting the justice he deserved
FUCK WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>Lalo figures out Jimmy is in contact with Michael
>kills him
Nope

The episode was good even discounting Howard’s death imo

howard killing himself after the days events wouldnt be completely unreasonable. his reputation was completely soiled

>despite being positively ruined
>Howard would have continued moving forward and not become a depressed shitter like Gene if he was given a chance
HE DIDN'T DESERVED IT

I've seen a lot of people suggest that the thread of Kim's character is a desire to be punished for her failures and wrong-doings. I wonder then if she'll take the fall for Howard's death, and go to prison, explaining her future absence.

The final character drama could be her asking Jimmy to do the same, at which point he rejects this and her, and finally, truly becomes Saul.

>it's another boardies invade the general and overpraise the episode

this, sisters. so much this.

No one is ever gonna find Howard's body.

Lalo's probably gonna bury him in the desert somewhere.

the retards that lurk here are not better than these.

Howardbros... it didn't have to be this way

Mr Ziegler?!

now kim will feel guilty and leave saul, pretty obvious

>"H-H-Hey Lalo, do you think m-m-maybe you could shoot me next? I probally should h-h-have b-been aborted anyways?"

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If only

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>finally puts an end to that faggot cuck Howie
Can he get more based?

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>pin him as a chuck figure
Fuck does this even mean? Chuck did nothing wrong and even if you think he did, Howard *actually* did nothing wrong; and you could tell Jimmy actually felt bad at his monologue at the end. This basically confirms Saul is a soulless sociopath. just like howie said, there’s no justification. Hopefully Kim dies and gene too

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>lalo kidnaps jimmy and kim
>mike walks in after and cleans it up
done

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WALTER WHITE in the car

bravo, applause

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>people so upset by howard's death that writing = bad
Worked

You and the poster you're replying to assuming you aren't the same person are both fucking idiots

filtered if you can't see the bigger picture
>the howard scheme is playful fun though all of the build-up
>jimmy and kim realize what deep waters they're in right when it's too late
the horror if this episode works magnificently because of all of the goofiness so far
>teehee i'm howie cruising his jaguar :)
>anti-semitism in abluquerque! hehe

This would be the most kino outcome desu

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Now all those theories about Kim helping Jimmy behind the scenes can get buried under 6 feet of concrete. No longer care if Kim makes it, both her and Jimmy deserve to get fucked over.

CHILL THE FUCK OUT

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cope hatewatcher

what matters is he was in our hearts user unlike Jimmy and Kim

They're gonna puppet Howard's body like Weekend at Bernies' and make pretend that he died in a prison stabbing

>frame it as a suicide.

you guys are so fucking ignorant it hurts, body has to be moved, gunpowder needs to be on howard's hands, etc

I still couldn't believe it was happening. I saw the leak. But even as Howard was walking through the apartment, I figured it was just a scene from a preview I missed and someone shooped the gun in. I mean the effect is shit anyway especially when you freeze it.
I'm still trying to decide if it's kino or dumb. I thought Nacho suicide was fake too but I think that was easier to swallow.

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Is that why he was listed in IMDb?

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Fucking shit garbage

Guys I think they took the prank a little too far

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>I unironically hate Jimmy now.
he's a terrible person, kinda want to see a post-saul scene at the end (where he's working at the cinnabun) and somebody just domes him

that's not even a fucking Aztek you moron

Cope nothing happens fag

It was all on him

>Jane dies unconsciously, no pain

>Gale dies pleading for his life but ultimately finding peace

>Mike shot and betrayed, but at least gets to have the last word

>Hank dies with his dignity in tact at least

>Nacho dies a noble death to protect his father

>fucking Howard, the nicest guy on either show, gets blasted out of nowhere, betrayed by his best friends, humiliated professionally, cucked by wife, a man denied daily sex, dies in the worst way possible

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10/10
I feel so fucking bad for Howard

All the close ups of Howard with his back turned I expected an axe to go through his skull or something.

mike is solid

It's terrible writing, especially after the writers admitted on one of the Better Call Saul Insider podcasts that they often struggle to write themselves out of the situations they created the episode before. Meaning they didn't have much of this mapped out, they just knew they had to get rid of Nacho and Kim somehow.

The Howard Plan was a terrible arc and depended on way too much luck and convenience for Jimmy. It didn't make sense that Jimmy/Kim hated Howard this much, it didn't make sense for Lalo to kill Howard, none of it makes any sense.

Nobody wants to make it look like a murder, not even Lalo. That body is disappearing one way or another

Everyone getting fucked over by Walt makes BCS pretty comedic in retrospect. Imagine being engaged in these autistic 5D chess games biggest criminal masterminds, spending years building up your skillset, influence, and power, only to be done in by some spergy high school teacher and his junkie surrogate son.

he shouldnt die but rot in prison until getting stabbed by Mexicans

4/10 not even joking

0 out of 10 how wet was Kim at the prospect of absolutely RUINING Howard?

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I don't even like howard but their plan was really fucking cruel and evil and him dying was pretty sad too

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LALO IS SO BASED

Should have seen Howards demise coming with that "American Greed" segment on Saul. Had a bunch of sold Jimmy associates dunking on Jimmy, but strangely Howard wasn't one of them.

Jimmys a big retard user, to him his brother is dead. Easy to disassociate with Howard just like he did with Chuck

that's not even walt's car

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>ugh I hate this show and it's terrible writing
>therefore I am going to keep watching it week after week even though I dislike it

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APOLOGIZE RIGHT FUCKING NOW

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How do you know that?

>Muh effects looked like garbage
It was one frame, you're so cringe.

Howard... w-wake up

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howard lived and died like a redditor

Didn't Howard's head hit the table the same way Chuck's did?

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It stopped being playful fun after bowling ball. Literally became malicious from there.

F

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ok how the fuck does jimmy become saul after this? even mike says jimmy isnt made of stern stuff

You're not alone user. This is the worst death in Breaking Bad and BCS.

the only way foward now since howard spilled his guts out about everything
the worst part is that they are going to frame it as Howard coming over to their place and killing himself in front of them as a final fuck you to Jimmy

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Zoomer Gus

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Someone will shot Lalo in the head, Gus or Mike
Saul and Kim are fine and forget about Howard

Literally couldve just had Howard have a heart attack and just move the fuck on as a write off

REMINDER
Jimmy gets away with it all

Nah, the point is for Howard's death to be the direct result of Jimmy's and Kim's scheme, thus forcing them to confront their nature.

So Chuck was 100% right?

>lalo kills howard gets thrown around as a joke on /bcs/
>vince shitigan is hack enough to make it a reality

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won't work, bodies start to go into rigor mortis and decomp/proceed in different ways right after death and it will be obvious he was moved to even a newbie coroner

At the end she looked kind of guilty during Howard’s talk (which is not realistic if you go to such lengths, doesn’t work that way)

KIM AND JIMMY ARE SOULLESS

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so what is the point in watching any longer?

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>I unironically hate Jimmy now
GOOD FAGGOT THAT'S THE POINT

Suffering's not over yet Howardchads.

He's getting unceremoniously dumped in a hole in the desert.

actually pretty realistic. the nicest ppl always get fkd over

bravo
vince

WHAT A SICK JOKE

How should he die, Howardbros?

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i think they just check plot summaries online and complain

if kim doesnt end up dead I swear to christ

Godamn Schnauz I was joking when I asked who was getting executed

it makes complete sense you're just fucking retarded

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>have six seasons to tie together the lawyer and cartel plot lines
>Nope! Le Lalo is le magic man! He go boom boom woah so violent!! :O

NOTHING HAPPENED

>Betrayed by his best friends

Lmao, how the fuck are Jimmy and Kim his friends, they've been trying to destroy that man's life for years.

He should die after killing Kim and Jimmy, that's for sure

>I unironically hate Jimmy now
donkeys coming to conclusions four seasons late

what he was saying before lalo came in ties it together well for me. jimmy and kim pulled off their big scam on howard, howard responds by pointing out the deep flaws in their characters. then they see howard get shot in the head right in front of them, now howard's words will haunt them forever.
I also like how howard brought up chuck and saying that jimmy can't help but do bad things. just like how chuck kinda made it seem like jimmy indirectly led to their father's death by ruining his business, now jimmy has indirectly led to howard's death in a similar manner. he just can't help hurting people
I know redditors see character death and instantly scream "BEST EPISODE EVER!" (which is why shows like the walking dead got so popular), but c'mon, that doesn't mean character death automatically equals shit writing

We literally know he doesn’t

she will get vacuumed away

i love how the episode starts(without the teaser included), very comedically with that impostor guy rejoining jimmy and the reshooting, a scene very common in this show to intense legal drama with howard getting humilated chicanery style,but far more drawn out, and then finally ending on an organized crime style execution

bravo schultz

See what happens to Gene

sorry user who thinks i'm cringe. i really like tanoposting :(

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Howardbros...
not like this

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Chicken man throws him into the deep fryer

If the theories are true, being buried alive in concrete after being slowly tortured to death by Gus sounds good to me

Hey. Grief... it's a bitch. He couldn't live with it... ruining Sandpiper the way he did. It's too much for the man. So Howie here decided to eat his gun. It's tragic, but anyone could see this coming, hmm? He's drinking himself to death. We're doing him a favor.

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Cliff Main and Rich you dumbfucking speedwatcher he fucking plays golf with Cliff

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stop i'm gonna cry

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and now we have to wait 6 weeks because they want emmys even though this show will win 0 of them

gene getting arrested and ratting it ALL at the end would now be the best outcome since at least everybody would know howard was clean the entire time instead of the hack writer shit where mike cleans it up so it looks like howie killed himself

So its basically confirmed that the trauma of watching Howard get executed right in front of her is what causes Kim to fuck off and leave Jimmy.

No, you're just a fanboy faggot who can't admit bad writing in shows he enjoys.

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im just tired of them ending episodes with the big deaths
it felt like there was breathing room in BrBa for each death to really set in, except for gayle which was the last frame of the episode

Who says Walt was driving the Aztec in 2004?

It would’ve been more kino if Howard had died from the drugs they poisoned him with

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>people praising this episode

it was fine i guess but everything was telegraphed. if anything about the sandpiper meeting (the bulk of the episode) surprised you, then you're retarded and didn't pay attention to the rest of the season. the stuff with lalo was good, him using the wire tap against gus was good, but i know whatever reason he has for showing up to jimmy's house instead of just waiting for nightfall to attack the laundromat will 100% be something retarded.

lalo killing howard is retarded too, it's basically just a coincidence. if howard had killed himself (or had a bad reaction to the drugs or something) then it really might've made kim or jimmy have some sort of epiphany, but having lalo kill him just steps on that so that we can have a "wow, lalo is such a bad ass" (which wasn't needed at all, lalo already earned that in the season 5 finale).

so while not a bad episode, stuff definitely happened, i'm not about to give up an unironic "bravo vince" for that episode. it was mostly very predictable (even the last minute broken arm thing was pointless ultimately), with the exception of the lalo killing howard thing which was basically a retarded coincidence

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Buried alive under the meth lab

Checked double dubs confirms

Howard is a walking metaphor for the White Man's Burden. Even getting an Asian Waifu could not save him.

(((Saul))) is a representation of the international, malignant Jewry working against the noble Aryan man on every front where not even death is too vile a consequence for their nefarious plans.

prove me wrong.

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>he was just getting warmed up
>gets hot during the ep

BRAVO VINCE

The plot is completely fine. Jimmy and Kim knew they're tangled with the cartel and still roped Howard into their world. Nothing is meaningless here.

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Another terribly written episode with an asspull to conveniently move the plot along? Wow! Its so fucking obvious that this season is filled with female writers

Howard never even interacted with his killer. However the reason it works is because we've already seen him just kill random people.

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>reminder Jimmy is still dealing with the consequences of two retarded skateboarders getting hit by the wrong car
kino

this

explain what aspect of it you don't get at least

Episodes 4 and 6? Yeah they were weak. 5 was good, and this was a top 3 episode of the series, at least. Every minute of it was more entertaining than everything else this season put together.
I like liking things.

HIS NAME WAS HOWARD
HE WAS A NOBLE SOUL

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7/10

I'm tired of people (and the show) building Gale up like he was an innocent civilian. He was knowingly working with a drug lord and was slated to be the next Heisenberg. Just because he's a stuttering virgin doesn't mean he shouldn't take responsibility for his actions

It shocked the shit out of me even though I saw it coming a mile off. But I expected that Howard would go to their house and fly off the handle before Lalo showed up. The way they built up to it with Howard's respectfulness and maturity gave it so much more weight when it happened. And Jimmy and Kim's fear for Howard's safety. God damn didn't realize I could be shocked by something I knew was going to happen all episode

WHY THE FUCK DID LALO DO IT HOWARD BROS PLEASE EXPLAIN

Howard was a fag. He and Chuck liked to pretend they were moral pillars, but ultimately they were just servants to banks. Oh wow, the most brilliant legal mind who ever lived helped bankers navigate zoning law. Amazing.
I suspected that Howard was going to go for the gun. Had that happened, I would’ve agreed with you. But he was just going to slither out. He’s a bitch and he fucked with three too many real niggas

i bet she has beautiful feet

>kettleman retard

tldr

Honestly a sold 9/10. I was pretty satisfied :D. Not giving it a 10 because it was literally just a filler episode

F

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>something exciting finally happens 6 episodes in
>month and a half break
FUCK YOU VINCE

This week was different, I am legitimately done. I'm not even going to watch next week's episode or the one after that. Fuck it.

Ozymandias was never that good

10/10 Better than Ozymandias