Just saw American Psycho for the first time. Great movie and I didn't expect the ending but what actually is happening in the film? Are we supposed to trust Batemans recount of events or everybody else's?
If we are to trust Bateman then everything he said happened did making him a serial killer and psychopath while also making the world around him untrustworthy as it's lying to him. If we are to trust the World then Bateman truly is lost and unable to differentiate between his imagination and reality making him unreliable as a perspective.
Just saw American Psycho for the first time...
Austin Phillips
Oliver Foster
It’s in Bateman’s head. He never killed Paul Allen and he never had a shoot out with the cops. We know this because he shoots a cop car with a Glock and it explodes. This would never happen in real life and even he is shocked his handgun had such an effect.
Luis James
It doesn't matter if it happened or not
Kayden Perez
I think the correct answer was always Bateman was just some loser stuck in his place of the world unable to accept his position and status. He sees himself as this infallible being of perfection yet at the end from an outsiders perspective he's nothing but a loser who copies the mannerisms of his loser friends while having no real personality of his own. He practically daydreamed the entire events of the movie but lost his capabilities to differentiate between what he imagined and what he did. I'm 99% sure everything that happened in the events was probably just a metaphor was Stuff he was dealing with at the time. The homeless guy was probably just his stance on lower class since he wanted to be perfect untouchable, his porno shit was probably just a reflection of his inability with women, and who doesn't daydream about taking out their frustration on those who they deem better than themselves. Patrick was always a loser but it wasn't until somebody basically shut down his delusions we couldn't see it
Bentley Taylor
damn. nice write-up user
Cameron Torres
it's not about him being a "loser" at all, the point is that by every measure of the yuppie lifestyle he *isn't* a loser because he is attractive, he has a well paying job, he has a beautiful fiancee, but these are all purely materialistic trinkets to patrick and the people around him. whether or not he is a loser by the standards of his friends because his business card is slightly less nice or he can't get a reservation at dorsia's is ultimately irrelevant because these are obviously silly meaningless things to covet. it's an environment in which psychopaths thrive because nobody cares about the person underneath all of these things
Chase Mitchell
But Patrick objectively was a loser. He was even in the background of his own friend group. He was so uninteresting he was mistaken by almost everybody he interacted with that he was Dan, which I would argue would be even more embarrassing to be repeatedly mistaken for someone that most people can't even differentiate meaning they rarely interact with them
Henry Collins
He's literally in Hell. The fact that everyone is indifferent to his brutal murders is a worse punishment than being hated or punished for them. He confesses and everyone laughs it off. No exit. No catharsis. "My punishment continues to elude me, and I gain no deeper knowledge of myself." Nothing he does matters. That is Hell.
Colton Powell
You missed the point of the movie out of a desperate need to constantly be contrarian.
Luis Bell
>You missed the point of the movie out of a desperate need to constantly be contrarian
This level of projection has never been thought possible
Landon Carter
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Christopher Clark
do you really not get that it simply doesn't matter whether or not patrick is a 'loser' precisely because he is indistinguishable from everyone else? if you found yourself actually analyzing their identical business cards and ranking the identical characters in your head from successful to loser you might just be retarded my nigga, because there's nothing more to that scene, and the whole movie, than a satire of how absurd yuppie society is.
even though his friends maybe aren't murderous psychopaths like he is, "inside doesn't matter". they all outwardly act like vain, materialistic sociopaths and whether or not patrick killed anyone, or whether or not he's self aware is ultimately irrelevant. the movie is about how sick the society patrick finds himself in is, and his actions are symptomatic and characteristic of it. he can't escape it, which is why there is no catharsis for him in the end.
Jose Gutierrez
The whole point is that it doesn't even fucking matter
Kayden Rogers
book is better
Juan Cox
i thought the director said it wasnt set in stone as real or fake
Grayson Butler
Bateman being considered a dork by everyone else is hardly touched on in the film.
The two whores laugh at his choice of music and his lawyer says Bateman is a dork which is the extent of it.
Wyatt Peterson
this is it
Angel Morris
The ending really makes sure it hits home
Chase Powell
His obsession with music makes him stand out though. He's a loser particularly because he invests himself in such a shallow world - maybe everyone else has the same internal world but we dont see a hint of that.
Asher Nguyen
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Ryan Price
Actually I take it back, the more I think about it the harder time I have distinguishing Patrick's motivations from anyone else. I guess that's the point.
Asher Bennett
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Hudson Davis
This the dubs thread?
Juan Johnson
Honestly, that's the best. You can argue both points.