I'm not a deliberate contrarian but every time I watch Avatar I really find myself rooting for him. What is it? Why do I want him to win so badly? I don't feel that way about other sci-fi and fantasy villains but I always see Quaritch as the hero in Avatar.
I'm not a deliberate contrarian but every time I watch Avatar I really find myself rooting for him. What is it...
Isaiah Foster
Luis Brown
because you're a fascist chud
David Scott
the scene where a 5'11" man is fighting a 12 foot blue martian without the gundam
that's where I realized he's the hero
Ian Carter
Not even close. I think people that align with the Empire in Star Wars, even ironically, are kind of retarded. Same for any fictional fascism analogue but for some reason Avatar is different for me.
Daniel Barnes
Thomas Wilson
>every time I watch Avatar
ISHYGDDT
Cameron Anderson
>omg why do I like the likeable villain
Samuel Thompson
fpbp
Ayden Cox
The moralistic angle on the whole story is stupid because it's so warped by perspectives.
If the movie took place on Earth exploring the absolutely agonising conditions and hardships affecting billions of people - all the deaths, disease, pain and loss, all because those fucking smurfs are so selfish that they hoard unobtanium they don't even use - the dipshit audience would be calling for na'vi genocide before the halfway mark.
Trying to apply morals to critical resource conflicts is a profoundly retarded modern invention that's come about due to the relative plenty of the modern west and the fact that hardly anyone here has ever had to face any real hardship or scarcity. They've all gone so up their own ass about ''''right'''' and ''''wrong'''' that they've forgotten how to be functional self-preserving creatures.
Like if I went one village over and smashed in some innocent guys' skull so I could bring the food back to my own village and feed everyone, they'd call me a dangerously violent psychotic who needs to be locked up.
If my village had no food and everyone was huddled around fires starving to death, and I did the exact same thing, they'd call me a hero.
Kevin Ramirez
I think it's because as fucked up as what the company wants to do is, humanity really does need that rock to survive, while to the Na'avi it's ''just'' a holy site. It's also because Jake is a weak and selfish man who turns traitor because he gets his legs back an a new body, allowed himself to be brainwashed ("we'll see if your insanity can be cured"), and for a woman. The film portrays him as good, but humans inherently dislike traitors.
Camden Jenkins
>avatar fags have to result to using fake quotes to make their characters and conflict look remotely interesting
Aiden Jenkins
>If my village had no food and everyone was huddled around fires starving to death, and I did the exact same thing, they'd call me a hero.
I wouldn't go do far as 'hero', but yeah, you would be seen as just doing what was necessary. One thing about the movie that always stick out to me is that Quaritch doesn't really seem any more 'evil' than other military figures in other movies; I don't recall him ever being anything but forthright with his intentions and beliefs, and he treats Jake normally right up until he's turned traitor. He's not a good man, but they don't go out of their way to portray him as a moustache twirling villain either. Even the corpo just feels out of his depth and at most absent from the ''human''(Na'avi) element of the situation. It's also shown that Jake doesn't join the Na'avi just out of goodness, but is equally swayed by what they can offer him. It's a part of the movie that I actually appreciate and I hope the humans who return are portrayed as desperate but not evil.
Connor Howard
>handsome
>jacked
>charismatic
>wealthy
what is there not to like?
Michael Myers
Your example ignores the potential response from people who want nothing to do with your chosen method of bringing them salvation, as well as ignoring the possible large scale issues brought on by retribution and the escalating response to that.
Chase Rivera
He unironically didn't do anything wrong from what I can remember. He gave the science team plenty of time to try peaceful negotiations with the Na'vi and they didn't make any significant progress. Hell, wasn't the main character partly at fault the peaceful negotiations failed because he was too busy chasing alien pussy? Quaritch even planned to get him his legs back and send him home as a hero but he still betrayed humanity for sex.
Then there's the fact that the Na'vi's culture is completely stagnant. You could replace the humans with some other alien race and the Na'vi would still come across as the less sympathetic ones because they have no desire to improve themselves. And they didn't even need the unobtanium if I remember right. So they were just being murderous pricks for basically no real reason while humanity's survival was at risk
Jonathan Thomas
>. Hell, wasn't the main character partly at fault the peaceful negotiations failed because he was too busy chasing alien pussy? Quaritch even planned to get him his legs back and send him home as a hero but he still betrayed humanity for sex.
Pretty much. Jake just goes native rather than making any real attempt at convincing them that they need to work with the humans/find another solution. It's not like there really was one, they weren't going to let their sacred site be defiled and the humans weren't going to back down, but he really doesn't even try, too busy learning to become one of them and chasing Ney'tiri's ass.
>So they were just being murderous pricks for basically no real reason while humanity's survival was at risk
While the tree might be unique, we don't know yet, they kind of damaged the Na'avi even further in this regard by showing that there are other clans across the continent (?) and maybe across the world that don't just sit more or less on a giant clump of the rock humanity needs, so really it's just one tribe being salty about their holy site slash usb port to the planet hdd. Jake really is also a bit of an idiot, the scientists too, because when he hears the ''souls'' of the people it never occurs to any of them that what he might be hearing is more likely memories recorded by interfacing with EeywaNET. I half hope that JC goes full subversion at some point and reveals that Eeywa is actually an advanced alien AI set up by some bigger and scarier race that will be the enemy of both humans and Na'avi and force an alliance.
Grayson Wilson
Probably because you're a beneficiary of colonialism in some way.
Aaron Cooper
You love humanity the way wignats love “whiteness”. It’s way better, but when aliens get involved its time to reassess whether you’re a humanist or a lover of all species
Daniel Taylor
>competence porn
>smurfs and furries are suss
>smurfs and furries are controlled by a hive mind and represent the danger of AI tech singularity on the opposite end
Alexander James
Reminder that he calls himself "Papa Dragon".
Personally I feel those that sympathise with him are closet homosexuals.
Ryan Ross
>I half hope that JC goes full subversion at some point and reveals that Eeywa is actually an advanced alien AI set up by some bigger and scarier race that will be the enemy of both humans and Na'avi and force an alliance
That would be kind of cool actually