I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in human evolution...

>I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in human evolution. We became too self aware; nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself. We are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, a secretion of sensory experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody’s nobody. I think the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.

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this guy read blindsight

What the fuck is that posture bro

World of Warcraft posture

Retard faggot pseud. Self-awareness is the greatest motivator for self-preservation in the entire animal kingdom. Your defeatist low-T handwringing is pathetic.

Evolution is just a theory.

It's interesting to me that while humans aren't the only animal capable of intentional suicide (various animals can be depressed and spiral into a neglectful/intentional death for various reasons, largely stress) we're the only ones who do it for a reason beyond basic instinct.

No dog was ever given food, attention etc and then starved itself to death because it didn't feel like it was accomplishing enough or because it felt sorry for itself living in an evil world where bad things happen -- animals need the trauma of a dead mate or tangible problem to lose the will to live. Immediate events and memories, not abstract thoughts reasoned within the brain. As a human I feel remarkably alone in our unprecedented understanding of goals, biology, technology etc... and the general nature of life and personal fulfillment (or lack thereof). We are literally peerless in our understanding of how fucked everything is

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>I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in human evolution.
ath*ist scum

Good novel, despite Peter Watts' prose

This except it's life not human consciousness

thinking that this shit you wrote about is 'beyond basic instinct' is wrong
>The cause of human suffering is undoubtedly found in the thirsts of the physical body and in the illusions of worldly passion. If these thirsts nd illusions are traced to their source, they are found to be rooted in the intense desires of physical instincts. Thus, desire, having a strong will-to-live as its basis, seeks that which it feels desirable, even if it is sometimes death.
(the rest of your post is too reddit to even acknowledge)

Everything he said was a frail cope because his daughter died so he was trying to convince himself that it's morally sound to not have any more children, when in reality he was protecting himself from the possibility of having another kid, and that kid possibly dying too, which he knows he wouldn't be able to deal with.
Rust deeply cared for children (which if you think about it is him deeply caring for other people). He put his mind and body through absolute hell just to save a couple kids in the woods.

that's a lot of letters to say nothing

it's very simple. wanting to die is still wanting. it's still instinctual craving

As another user said evolution is just a theory, a tool we use to try and neatly explain our development. There are no mistakes in nature, because any thing nature embodies is inherently correct due to the fact it exists rather than not existing. We aren’t a “misstep” outside of our own perception of ourselves

why would a depressed animal evolve to die over time and inherently seek death
how does a sad tiger giving up after he already fucked a lady tiger instill his offspring with giving-up-genes but not enough to die outright, just enough to give up if he suffers an illness or something severe enough that he knows to roll over and bite it

anyone have the thing about deers and antlers that expands on this a bit more? it was cool

The yids want to end this: the post

Yes
Life is cope

it's not instinct to 'crave death'. it's very clear
> Thus, desire, having a strong will-to-live as its basis, seeks that which it feels desirable, even if it is sometimes death

>why would a depressed animal evolve to die over time and inherently seek death
If it helps spread your genes then that's what you're gonna do. Imagine, you've got some specialized task in your tribe. Then the need for that task goes away, and you can't specialize for something new. You're now a useless person. You get depressed, and you kill yourself. Then the tribes who have people who kill themselves when they're useless will outcompete the ones where the useless people just stick around being useless.

Although, probably, depression has other primary purposes. I.e., you involuntarily start sending signals that you need help, in order to get people to help you. The whole point of the depression not being controllable by you is to get you to do it even if you don't want to. Of course, if nobody cares about you or wants to help you then this is a bad deal. But then, if you're such a worthless person that nobody cares about you, the group is probably better off with you dead.

>evolutionary psychology
What is the evolutionary advantage of some babies being deformed cyclops babies that quickly die?

because deformed babies make me laugh and im gonna have a thousand children when i get rich off crypto

I agree wholeheartedly.

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