Why do Marvel fans support these new movies that disrespect their favorite characters?

Recent Marvel movies are not character driven. Characters don't act like themselves. Superpowers come and go. The characters act out of character and forget their superpowers so the plot can lead to pre-planned "epic situations". But these situations are so contrived, a result of character stupidity and superpower nerfing. So all the drama and conflict feels unearned and unnecessary. They are shitty cliches, shouldn't have happened in the first place, and not worth the character destruction to get there.

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It took me a long time to realize it but that's just the nature of capeshit. When you have so many cooks in the kitchen (writers, editors, publishers, etc) stories begin to deteriorate and worlds begin to decay. Any single person with an ego can absolutely ruin your favorite character for decades to come, and it happens in an instant. The worst part is, no one else will care except you. You will sit alone in your anger and frustration as greedy people line their pockets and take a fat shit on your life. Fuck capeshit.

Because MCUfags aren't comic fans.

Capeshit can be good though. Like any fantasy ip it can be good as long as the logic of the world/characters is followed. Capers come with their own predefined strengths and weaknesses aka "lore", and if you respect them you're already halfway there.

what bothered me the most about No Way Home was this feeling that they filmed scenes in a way so that they could later decide if they wanted to kill a character.

Like Aunt May. She gets hit by the glider, then gets back up and has a whole conversation with Peter where she says she's fine, then she falls over and dies. It's almost like they filmed the scene two different ways, one where she dies and one where she doesn't, and then they kept both scenes in. And then Toby, who gets backstabbed and has a whole scene like he's going to die, but then he just walks it off back to his universe? What's the point in mortally wounding him if he doesn't die?

> What's the point in mortally wounding him if he doesn't die?
Fake drama. Elicit an emotional response from the audience. But there will be no consequences. Like with everything that happens to MCU characters. They are perfectly fine in the next movie/scene. So it's have your cake and eat it too situation, like most violence in the MCU.

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Yeah but in that movie there actually were consequences.

What was the consequence of Tobey getting stabbed?

This right here

The studio got to test screen him dying.
But I guess they forgot to film a version where he just doesn't get stabbed, or maybe test audiences liked the fake out, because they're retarded

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>Not a single person died from this

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Does hishe do anything but capeshit anymore?

theres still no sound here on the TELEVISION and FILM board, what are you doing friend?

Wrong movie bud

That scene wasn't really important but by the end of the movie Aunt May is dead and Peter lost his whole identity pretty much. I would consider those consequences.

Tobey get stabbed was still complete bullshit. He has great spider sense first of all so it shouldn't have happened, and the result of it was nothing. If they want the emotional impact from the audience then be true and just kill him.

Peter didn't need to lose his identity in the first place. Which is part of Op's point. Could have just set a spell to make everyone forget Mysterio and what he said. All problems solved.

All these movies make no sense. It's a marvel thread.

Yes jannies are fags. What's new? You don't need sound to understand these clips