What are people patriotic or Nationalistic about in Brazil
All you guys seem chill here so I never see anything
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Camden Morris
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Elijah Sullivan
I’m not patriotic for Brazil but I’m for my local culture, as a Caipira I feel akin exclusively to my Caipira brethren, I’m proud of our culture, history and dialect.
Joshua Reyes
Wish there was an rpg where you play as a gnome and do gnome things in the forest like planting berry bushes and making a house under a giant oak tree
Ian Evans
How particularly big is regionalism in Brazil. In Australia outside of State politics there isn't too much State > Country feelings. Like obviously as a Federation that's how politics are, but not that people want to stop being part of Australia or are more loyal to state than country.
Grayson Watson
About everything a country could be nationalistic for
Nationalism is not about being developed or necessarily imposing your country's will on others as Any Forumscels like to pretend, but rather defending what's best for it
John Long
It used to be very big in the past, during colonial and imperial times we had many provincial independence movements and wars, but differently from Spanish America those movements were all crushed. Today there is a sense of Brazilian identity specially due to the repression of local culture done by the dictator Getúlio Vargas, in this process he created a sort of “artificial” Brazilian identity based on Rio de Janeiro culture and lifestyle, but regionalism still is very noticeable in many aspects of our daily lives.
Caleb Wood
>the repression of local culture done by the dictator Getúlio Vargas
How did he do it? What's the man about as a whole as well.
Christopher Lopez
Brazilians are P4P the most obnoxious. What ever part the world these uncouth characters find themselves in its *meuh brasil
Nicholas Turner
By being a populist and portraying himself as the “father of the poors”, Prohibiting immigrants from speaking their languages, prohibiting states of using their symbols like flags and such, censoring journalists and musicians, undemocratically putting his allies as state governors, creating his own “Brazilian” festivals, expositions, civic manifestations, etc. He even caused a war where my state São Paulo fought against Vargas and Brazil, my great grandfather fought for São Paulo, this is one of the reasons why I’m more proud of my local culture than for Brazil.
Dylan Young
>he created a sort of “artificial” Brazilian identity based on Rio de Janeiro culture and lifestyle, but regionalism still is very noticeable in many aspects of our daily lives.
bullshit
Hunter King
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Samba and carnival as it is today is just one of his creations.
William Diaz
>not that people want to stop being part of Australia or are more loyal to state than country.
same here. State identity is usually very weak and separatist movements are small.
>How particularly big is regionalism in Brazil
the only region with strong culture is the Northeast but they are usually very proud of being Brazilian, so they see it more like the Northeast is the soul or cultural heart of Brazil instead of being a different thing
Ian Murphy
>the only region with strong culture is the Northeas
Liar
>the Northeast is the soul or cultural heart of Brazil instead of being a different thing
It isn’t
Lucas Peterson
When I think about state identities, I think it's Americans that have really strong state identities on one end and some other federations on the other. How our countries see regionalism I think is a lot more interesting than unitary states, just because at the very least there is a real political meaning to being a state/subdivision.
Nathaniel Williams
it literally is
I stating the local opinion
Noah Lopez
Football
Thomas Cooper
I'm very proud of our cultural anthropophagism identity but I don't consider Brazil better or worse than anywhere else. It's just home and it'll always be.
Leo Ross
Same here, my great great grandpa was part of an artillery unit and fought there, but unlike yours he actually won and I'm proud we crushed you maggots once again kek
William Sanders
>State identity is usually very weak and separatist movements are small.
What the fuck you are talking? State identity is strong and it has nothing to to with separatism.
>the only region with strong culture is the Northeast but they are usually very proud of being Brazilian, so they see it more like the Northeast is the soul or cultural heart of Brazil instead of being a different thing
Hahahaha, sure. Too much sunstroke made you delusional, Paraíba.
Leo Watson
Yes, despite the bad economy i am proud to be Brazilian, proud of our military conquests, proud of our territory, proud of our racial integration and miscegenation
Hudson Garcia
we only name them "states" because the republican movement was very much inspired in the US (the name of our country was even United States of Brazil until 1968). In practice, they are just provinces with elected government and parliament. They don't have a degree of autonomy like in Mexico or the US where different states can have different criminal codes and wild things like abortion and weed can be legal in one but illegal in others. The legislative bodies of our states only deal with administrative matters.
The origin of the current state borders comes from colonial capitancies, hereditary fiefs divided by the Portuguese crown to delegate the cost of colonization to private actors. There aren't real cultural boundaries between states or different histories of immigration (with exception to the southern most states), they are just the legacy of random chunks of land ruled by random Portuguese noble families
Alexander Barnes
>State identity is strong
strong state identity in our country is very rare. I can only think of São Paulo, Pernambuco and Rio Grande do Sul because these states fought secessionist wars before
Dylan Murphy
Congratulations, just don’t forget we are the protagonists of Brazil and that São Paulo is the only actual successful state.
Benjamin Mitchell
>where different states can have different criminal codes and wild things like abortion and weed can be legal in one but illegal in others. The legislative bodies of our states only deal with administrative matters.
So laws are mostly all federal? In Australia states can decide their own laws for the most part. There's some dumb things like different allowable wheel sizes for the road but one state can legalize weed or abortion while others have different laws on it.
Noah Jenkins
another map as example of the difference between our "federalism" and the Mexican/American/Australian federalism
John Cox
I don't really care, Brazil is a failure that insists to be one and I'm powerless to solve. We have false federalism, the average Brazilian has a very low understanding of the country, and there are regional fights like South x Rest, SP x RJ and etc. That doesn't state only in the cultural sphere , but in the political, taxation and others. Brazil was born os secession and memenly doesn't alow one today every region of this country would probably be better of on it's own. However, delussionally, most Brazilians think that Brazil is a rich country, a leader, that we are the "U.S of S.A" and other nationalistic cliches repeated ad aeternum like "The country of the future", kek.
Jordan Robinson
Just imagine the face of the person behind this post...
Kevin Gutierrez
>There aren't real cultural boundaries between states
There are.
Also state borders were directly shaped by bandeirantes.
Jose Scott
there are state laws but they can only deal with administrative matters like taxes, conservation areas, government programs like housing or pensions, this kind of thing
Jordan Torres
... São Paulo has a strong identity? So had have a civil war or saying "soouh paulista meoh" don't make it have more or less of a strong identity, maybe 30s, 40s and 50s São Paulo had it, but know it's a melting pot. You are able to define most of the state for distinctively cultural traits, habits and dialect. If you can't you just don't know enough.
You don't even put Minas Gerais in you list, hahahaha, you don't know what you are talking about
Colton Scott
Imagine me olhando enquanto me mama, palhaço.
Grayson Hall
>soouh paulista meoh
We are talking about the state of São Paulo which is Caipira, not the city.
>define most of the state for distinctively cultural traits, habits and dialect
You can do that to SP
Robert Scott
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