Imagine the sheer economic prosperity we could've all had if they gave up on the former USSR after the 90s and became a...

Imagine the sheer economic prosperity we could've all had if they gave up on the former USSR after the 90s and became a peaceful liberal democracy and joined the EU

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but you did join the eu

Russia.
I am talking about Russia.

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but they did become a peaceful liberal democracy, idk about EU i dont think theyre a good fit for that trade union and if russia decides to join the EU it will hurt their independance.
EU probably does more harm than good for most of it's members long term.

>just turn your entire population into retarded sheeple way too addicted to consuming product to have reasonable thoughts appear in their brain
why?

What is this flag?

>just turn your entire population into retarded sheeple way too addicted to consuming product to have reasonable thoughts appear in their brain

that's....
that's literally russia since forever

You like white movement had their flag, this is kinda similar.
They lost and now cannot use the current russian flag.

I don't know how to reply to this.
You would get assraped by churkas with aids in prison if you ever said anything bad about the government but everyone else is the sheeple?
Some meme alternate Russian flag drawn up by liberal expats to show they don't support the Russian government.

I think changing the Russian flag is not pragmatic because you want to have a symbol that is accepted by as many as possible. That flag would only create division.

That's every capitalist liberal democracy in a nutshell - drown the people with endless consumer goods and entertainment until their brain turns off and they themselves turn into fat ameobas.
Also add fearmongering on TV, news, radio, internet, everywhere, so that NPCs are afraid to lose this shitty pig disgusting lifestyle they have.
>afraid to lose what you have
>lust for something you don't have

>alcohol
Ivan, I...

Are you implying everything you say isn't also true for Russia?

>Russia did beocme a peaceful liberal democracy

I'm not implying anything, i'm just saying that liberals today LOVE this system, either because they get benefits from exploiting the brainwashed addicts or because they are the brainwashed addicts themselves.
Which is why i see every suggestion that
>muh liberal democracy soo good you must do it
i feel nothing but disguist towards the person who says it.

If you're gonna exploit someone at least be honest and go buy yourself some slaves from the third world instead of bullshitting people with faux ideas about freedom and prosperty while squeezing the all the liquid out of them.

You live in a parallel reality

Yeah. All that potential wasted.

I just told you. People are
>afraid of lose what they have
>lust for things they cannot get
if this is the reality for you - i feel sorry for you.

>The problem is the post USSR
The problem is the USSR itself, the white should have won and made the first Russian republic viable or even a restoration of monarchy under a liberal constitution
Industrialization was already in full swing before WW1, the people were getting richer in general, only WW1 and the most brainlet leader of the war (and the late Russia empire in general) were able to fuck this
The first republican gouvernement should have seek peace and give some concessions to the Germans
Also their anthem is much better than the USSR rip-off of today's Russia
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>Some meme alternate Russian flag drawn up by liberal expats to show they don't support the Russian government.
Bit cringe tbf

Give up independent just to strife for shitty unreasonable values?

Romania cucked itself to the west, but it's still an utter shithole with subhuman population.

You seem genuinely retarded, my friend

Russia is a liberal capitalist bourgeois democracy, that's the problem.

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>just turn your entire population into retarded
Yeah, having an actual democracy makes them more sheeple than a strongman controlling them. Sure kek
Your socialist state told where you worked, where you lived, told what to do all the time never permitting you to choose for yourself or even to affect the direction of the state. But it's the capitalism that's the issue? Sure

I don't know if you're being sarcastic but the possibility was always there. Germany was desperately trying to work with your country.
>Romania cucked itself to the west, but it's still an utter shithole with subhuman population
Our GDP per capita used to be half of yours, now we are over you and the gap is growing. Russia did this to itself, you could've been pushing 1st world levels by now if you worked on peaceful development and economic integration from the 90s onwards instead of digging in for war and trying to create your own union.
>shitty unreasonable values
I am curious, what are the reasons that I would want to be ruled by a clique of ex-glowie strongmen instead of having a democratic system with independent judiciary, free elections, etc. ?

>I don't know if you're being sarcastic
Nope. With our resources and human potential that we had we could be economical superpower like USA or China.

Russia is more irreligious than Romania. Also higher in in alcoholism, drug use, HIV, abortions, divorce, pout-of wedlock pregnancy and maybe some other things.

What is the purpose of this post? It's just shitflinging.