Chinese vs Japanese

Anime vs Xi's jade rod. Which one, do you think, it better and why? On the one hand, Chinese has over a billion of speakers and Japanese only circa 140millions. On the other hand, the former are mostly peasants and commies and the latter have anime gals and other anime stuff. I am on the fence here. The only thing holding me back from plunging into Japanese is that Japan is a relatively small (on the scope of Asia) isolated country whose citizens don't want to have sex so badly they are ready to kill for their incel beliefs.
All jokes aside, what are your thought, /int?

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Choose the one who’s content you’ll actually consooom.
Also note japanese will be more difficult, don’t believe mandarin is the hardest language midwits

Japanese has a very noble melody to it. Chinese, IMHO, sounds like a dog barking, owing to its tonality.
Besides, China is relatively poor and culturally unpleasant, associated with dirt, devastation and LiveLeaks footages.
There is a lot of popular content in Japanese, but its intellectual value is questionable. On the othe hand, there is almost no Chinese media in the information field whatsoever, which, in particular, is facilitated by the Chinese firewall and the communist isolation of the region.

Honestly, I can't stomach all that is connected with China. I find it menacing and repulsive.
But, and it is a fat 'but', I also fear that we are going to be conquered by China sooner or later be it culturally or militarily. So I am choosing in advance here. Besides, it is rather difficult to migrate to Japan for us, third world dwellers, so that's another con for me.

Chinese will be useful if you plan on doing buissness or something but they absolutely hate foreigners just as much as japs. I found the language a bit hard myself when I learned it in school.
Japanese will be useful if you want to play weird untranslated visual novels, I guess.

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I've read it all and I believe you. Russia is the same, I guess. It might leave unprepared souls empty on the inside. I will go for Japanese then, at least hipsters and wiabu girls are into it.

There isn't much difference between China and Japan in terms of birth rates and incels

You don't want to immerse in Chinese culture or speak with them desu. Most of the good Chinese content is in Cantonese anyways. The only place in the world you'd want to live that speaks Mandarin is probably Taiwan. Learning Mandarin, Cantonese or Japanese is not worth it for money as it's an investment of several years of your life. Becoming good at those languages is harder than becoming a doctor.

>Becoming good at those languages is harder than becoming a doctor.
only if you're smart

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learning a language only requires motivation, not intelligence and dumb people don't have what it takes to become doctors to begin with

Dumb people aren't going to be able to learn Chinese as an adult in a country where it is not spoken.

You don't have to be that smart to become a GP. It's probably harder to get a quantitative PhD or even undergraduate from a reputable institution.

I think they can it's just not worth the time investment unless you intend to live there.

I don't think they can. It takes intelligence to teach yourself something, and learning a language incorporates many different skills. When I say "dumb people" I mean dumber than the dumbest people completing an MD

If you spend a good part of your life online, like to read, or have niche hobbies, Japanese is great. I know some Cantonese, so learning Kanji is like learning another Chinese dialect.

I'm a bit biased being from a middle class Minnesotan neighborhood but only about 25% of people I know that are white are legitimately too stupid to do any of this.

I'm also from a middle class MN neighborhood and I don't know anyone besides me who is a native English speaker with native English speaking parents who successfully learned a language other than French or Spanish. If in practice it doesn't happen that tells you something.

Oh cool. I think the primary issue with language learning is that the purpose is not good enough though, not necessarily the intelligence. Most people don't have reasons good enough to pour years of their life into a language, especially when all you need professionally (and socially) is English, especially where we live. Anyone could do it, but almost no one has a good reason to do so, and as a result their work ethic will fail before they learn the language well.

japan
>culture route
chinese
>business route

I want to learn both