Are Master Degrees in your country expected or the norm?
Would you do a master degree?
(in my case for example computer science)
Master Degree
Tyler Scott
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Jonathan Harris
I have a bachelors degree. Then went for my masters but never finished my thesis.
Lincoln Gray
I don't think anyone does them except for international students.
Adrian Moore
And no, they aren't the norm. Because most people aren't even allowed into universities.
Justin Roberts
I just completed a master's degree.
Wyatt Nguyen
If you only have a bachelor's, you're basically seen as a fancy high school graduate. You need an MSc to get anywhere based on your degree.
Nathaniel Fisher
>not allowed
explain
Nicholas Long
I'm literally going to fuck your ass
Oliver Allen
The value of a master's degree is determined on a degree-by-degree basis, and on what you did to get the degree. In fields like physics or chemistry, in which its basically expected that you'd have a PhD due to the entire field being research, a master's degree isn't very valuable. In a lot of other STEM fields, it is. Industry oftentimes sees a master's degree as a sign that you have enough specialized knowledge in the field to basically skip the whole "we send you to boot camp for a year to learn the specifics of the field" phase engineers oftentimes have to undergo. But again, that kind of depends on what you did to earn that master's degree.
Alexander Martinez
At the age of 11 kids go to different schools depending on their performance.
Kids who perform up until around average will go to a high school that will eventually give access to trade schools (technician, nursing, mechanic, carpenter, hair stylist, farmer, cook, etc).
Around 20% normal to above average kids will go to a high school that gives access to practical university with bachelor studies (architecture, journalism, marketing, engineering, accounting, IT).
And the top 20% goes to a high school that gives access to a theoretical university with bachelor + master studies (math, chemistry, biology, law, linguistics, medicine, etc).
Chase Ward
Oliver Watson
Seems like a good system. A dutchie I knew once seethed because "the future of the person has been decided so early! Now he could do better!"
Beats our system. Here we have like 50% of every graduate year going to Uni. It's basically politcally motivated to push almost every retards through school and enable them to go to Uni. Then many wonder why they fail in Uni.
Nolan Brown
In theory you could follow the required high school subjects, get those certificates and do an entry test at 21, but nobody ever does that.
You could also climb up by doing different studies after each other, which is more common. But very costly in time, as it takes many years.
There are actually 4 education levels for low performances, 1 for above average and 2 for high performances. But the internal differences between those categories are a lot smaller.
Andrew Hughes
The great thing about Germany is that you have lots of apprenticeships in the field. Where employers train people. We have very little of that. I wish we had more of that.
Liam Martinez
>The great thing about Germany is that you have lots of apprenticeships in the field. Where employers train people. We have very little of that. I wish we had more of that.
True. But we actually have a shortage since most people don't wanna do that anymore. Everyone thinks University is the must-have to suceed.
Wonder how long this system is still sustainable. Wouldn't suprise me when electricians or garbage men earn in future more here than devs or other uni grads.
Owen Harris
>STEMFAG
laugh at him boys laugh
Jayden Cox
Here it's very clear for kids and parents what their future will be. And people just accept that. And focus on that.
You do have parents that try to pressure schools to give their kid a higher advice, but this usually results in stress for the kid. The kid failing. And the kid eventually dropping to a lower level anyway.
Aiden Evans
>you WILL write a thesis
>you WILL publish a paper
>or you will NOT get anything for your 2 year time and financial investment
why are there so many shitty papers with results that cannot be replicated?
Blake Mitchell
I think the works students produce are probably more credible than the papers produced by many professionals lol. Who get paid to steer the study into a certain direction.
Kevin Adams
>Would you do a master degree?
You mean like another one? Probably not, but PhD could be useful.
Ryder Edwards
they also get bonuses or the right to get more of the university's money if they publish more