Do you think we could ever get a deeply historical King Arthur movie set amidst the decline of the Romano-Britons and...

I like it when Arthur doesn't realise he's the son of Uther and has a destiny until a young man so is raised a foster son of some other Briton lord. I see a picture like this and sort of imagine it being what Arthur's up to in his youth before discovering his heritage - shit like scaring off and capturing Anglo-Saxon raiders amid the backdrop of the Brittonic lords being divided over Vortigern's decision to invite in more Anglo-Saxons like Henghist and Horda, etc.

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There were two historical fantasy movies in the 00s that tried for this, iirc "Arthur" and "The Last Legion". Both were bad.
Honestly, a straightish Mallory adaptation would be far more distinct now than any radical reimagining or "historically accurate" attempt.

It’d be absolutely fascinating to see any of this proposed glimpse into an era that really hasn’t been explored on film, but we all know it will never happen. But still, hope springs eternal.

t. Burger who has been slowly going through the period in question and Arthurian myth as a hobby

>historically accurate" attempt.
Not OP but I understand where he is coming from. The term I would use is historical authentic, not accurate. For example, they wear stuff seen in and because it's the 5th century, NOT plate armor from Middle Ages. I personally would preserve magic, the rare dragon (a nearly extinct species) like the whole white dragon vs. red dragon thing, and so on. I wouldn't have a bug up my ass about it being as realistic as possible but would want it to be more authentic in terms of what they wear, the weapons, castles, etc.

Did I actually inspire this historical-based interest in Arthur? Because I made these exact threads months and months ago in 2021 also using Osprey artwork and so on.

Reddit spacing faggot

Maybe tangentially, but it had been something stirring around for a while and leisure time was finally at hand. Kismet, you might say.

Did you notice that there are no films about the historical period between Gladiator and that Saladeen movie from the 1960s? Four or five centuries with no movies made about them.

El Cid is just late enough to be 11th century

Rome withdrew the Legions in 407 and withdrew all authority in 410
The "Groans of the Britons" begging for help with internal conflict, Irish raids, and Saxon raids was received in the 450s
The presumed "Arthurian period" begins in the 470s with the Battle of Badon that halted Saxon advance for 50 years and popularly attributed to Arthur is estimated to have occurred sometime around 500

The Romans had a policy of transferring recruits out of their home provinces
So yes someone from Arabia and North Africa - and for that matter other eastern regions like Samartia and Germany - would have been sent west to Briton, and in turn Britons sent west
And they had a policy of settling Legions in these provinces once they had completed their 20 years of service they would be given citizenship and land in a colonia settlement
And yes records do show us there were a number of individuals from North Africa stationed in Briton
But we need to remember several things
1) North African does not necessarily mean a Sub-Saharan Nubian, it would more likely mean a Berber like St. Augustine for example
2) We do not know how indicative these individuals were where as we do know that by the late Empire much of the Legion was inducted wholesale from German tribes - this would also fit in with what we know about how the Saxons are said to have come to Briton btw, supposedly a despot hired Saxon mercenaries and they rebelled
3) as shown in the brief chronology I began with this period of time is some 60+ years after Rome withdrew, any Arabian or North African Legionnaires staying behind would be old men if still alive and it would be their grandchildren or grandchildren fighting. I think that could certainly be interesting but they would also be quite light skinned from 3 or 4 generations of interbreeding with the local Romano-Britons and Celts (and even the originator might themselves have been of mixed descent from their home province)

user he was a real Romano-Briton
Merlin is an invention of the French medieval chroniclers
Yes
Although he was not a king, no source calls him that until Geoffrey of Monmouth writing in the 12th century
Even William of Malmsbury writing just ten years earlier only called him a warlord
The earliest written account calls him a "Dux Bellorum" and describes him as 'leading the Kings of Briton' in battle against the Saxons - i.e. he was a military commander
That film had way too much cheese and fiddled with the chronology way too much
And then there is just a million little things like plate armor, stirrups, etc
The semi-mythical account of how the Saxons came is quite interesting
Supposedly a despotic ruler Vortigern invited them in to work as mercenaries guarding the Saxon Shore fortifications and they decided they like the place and began seizing land
This does have a ring of truth to it as by the late empire the Roman legions were basically just German tribes working as mercenaries
Some thing the supposed conflict between Vortigern and Ambrosius might have been some sort of religious conflict with Vortigern representing a Pelegiast sect and perhaps this prompted the Saxon inductment
Anglo-Saxon came much later, at the time they were Angles and Saxons and Jutes. Same goes for what you say about English dynasties.
Britons are the indigenous people of the island of Britain. The Welsh, Cornish, and Scottish.
The English are the Anglo-Saxon descendants of the Germanic tribes.

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The dragon comes from the Roman cavalry Draco standard
The white and red dragon in the mythical conflict between Ambrosius and Vortigern might reflect the standards both factions flew
It continued to be used into the early middle ages for centuries
And eventually became the flag of Wales

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>and in turn Britons sent EAST
>it would be their grandchildren or GREAT grandchildren
fix'd

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The legend of King Arthur is party derived from historical records you American obsessed Yuropoor.