If the machine didn't work, how come Christian Bale saw the clone drowning with his own eyes...

If the machine didn't work, how come Christian Bale saw the clone drowning with his own eyes? This is shown in the movie as a fact.

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I don't know, I didn't make the movie

>If the machine didn't work

But it did work. I think you got memed by idiots and you're dumber than they are for believing it. The machine worked because
>the giant pile of hats
>the fact that there's two of Christian Bale's character
>all the dead clones in the tanks
Good job, OP. You got tricked by idiots into doubting yourself.

The machine did work. It made dozens of clones.

I think Nolan was intending that it doesn't work but he didn't realize how to communicate that.

Timeline
1. Movie starts with Angier hating Borden and being obsessed with the Transporting Man trick/
2. Borden decideds to pull a major hoax on Angier by luring him to Tesla. They trick Angier the Cloning machine actually works, by planting a bunch of "cloned" hats and cats for him to find.
3. Angier tries to clone himself but never gets it to work. Figures out he's been duped.
He now gets completely obsessed with revenge.
Decides pull the Ultimate trick on Borden: To actually make him believe magic is real, by tricking Borden into thinking the cloning machine actually worked! [evil]
4. Angier hires a lookalike and starts performing his own version of the Transporting Man.
5. He knows Borden will try to unveil his solution, so he sets Borden up - by killing his lookalike in a water tank in order to frame Borden for the murder.
6. Angier becomes Lord C and starts writing a journal, intended for Borden's eyes only. He writes down the lie that he actually did manage to clone himself.
THE KEY HERE: This movie uses some subjective perspectives. What you see isn't always what you get.
The largest part of Angier's story in the movie is actually told through Borden reading Angiers journals.
So scenes where Angier clones himself never happened - they just play out as Angier wrote them in his journal and the audience sees the same thing Borden envisions when reading the journals.
7. Borden is now jailed but Angier figures he has an accomplice that'll get revenge some day. To screw with Borden's mind, he places a bunch of well crafted wax dolls in water tanks, to appear as his "dead clones". [evil]
8. Borden's twin finally Angier. In his dying moments he talks about how he dedicated his entire life to this final trick.

And the final trick was this elaborate plan with the clones, which convince Borden that it wasn't a trick and that real magic in fact exists!
At the same time, Nolan also pulls this final trick on the audience.
THAT is the Prestige.

you forget that Hugh Jackman's double in the movie is already played by himself. So he's just killing that dude in the tank.

Christian Bale's identical character wasn't a clone it was his twin from birth btw.

>the machine didn't work
What kind of brainlet take is that? Is this an old shitty meme?

it is weird how much david bowie is like elon musk in this movie

half of those are never shown, implied or even hinted at in the slightest. I've never seen anyone convincingly argue the movie has anything beyond face value.

They are all shown, the point is you believe the illusion.

It all checks out from the diary entries, the subjective POVs. it is incredibly careful.

It all checks out. It is all a convincing, intentional magic trick by Nolan. Dude has a 150 IQ and made a movie that only 1 in 1,000 understand.

you're right, thats why they didn't use another actor. It needed to be played by Jackman to sell the illusion of him drowning. It is all part of the magic trick of the movie.

It is cool how Hugh makes the other guy so different. Dude is an underrated actor in general.

literally prove it, it's way better for the movie if he used it, resulting in a clone, which he then treated like a brother

it runs in contrast to how his arch rival used the machine and discards them

christian bale leads him to tesla.
you can believe he is really telling jackman the secret is creating a magic electro-clone.
but the problem is you have to believe the premise that magic is real.
the movie is constantly insistent that magic isn't real. the movie is constantly saying, you aren't looking hard enough.

so I dont buy that he would be honest in the diary.

magic isn't real.......but this cloning machine le works

well he says the diary is fake, in the actual diary. he says tesla is the key, but not the secret.

where is the proof? he sees a bunch of hats in a pile, and a bunch of black cats. they could easily plant a bunch of fake shit.

Like all magic tricks you use your imagination to fill in the gaps.

what?! he kills his dopplegangers, there's a fuck ton of tubes filled with corpses

He explains it to a dying Robert. It also shows how Robert's death and him having to murder his clones could've been avoided if he had listened to the old man that Alfred was using a double. Instead his desire to learn his trick/outdo him, get the glory and revenge led him down a dark path