this kills the ESL
This kills the ESL
Eli Nguyen
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Isaac Bennett
Hm.... let's see...
Eli Peterson
So much of that is wrong
Easton Foster
the nasal variants are the same vowels, just nasalized. those don't count as separate phonemes.
Levi Barnes
Copium
Michael Lee
What's wrong about it?
Jonathan Martinez
Should bot have the same o as boy?
Josiah Ortiz
Joshua Sanders
are you retarded?
Elijah Baker
pretty good but half of them are subtly off in a way I can't really explain
Juan Moore
Sorry, meant to say shouldn’t
Not sure how you pronounce it in yankland but we pronounce both the same
Daniel Gonzalez
Dialectal differences. Americans pronounce bot as [bɑt] (same as the a in far), the Scots pronounce it as [bɔt] (same as the ou in bought), you probably pronounce it as [bɒt]
Brayden Lee
>bait
>/e/
What the fuck is this shit?
Daniel Hall
oh nvm I see what you meant
Yes, I am retarded
Eli Green
Implying I use English in other way than writing
Landon Adams
Unless there is a minimal pair between [e] and [eJ] (i.e. there exists a pair of words where the only difference is [e] or [eJ]), then there's no practical difference between analysing it as /eJ/ or /e/.
Daniel Adams
some linguists claim /eJ/ is actually a single vowel. IDK why but I see it transcribed that way pretty often.
Nathan Howard
>Boat
>/o/
Is it though?
It's close to ō, but at least Wiktionary seems to suggest that it's either /bəʊt/ or /boʊt/.
Jeremiah Morgan
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Sebastian Watson
Refer to . In some dialects, /eJ/ and /oʊ/ are pronounced as monophthongs [e] and [o].
Daniel Thompson
This stuns and confuses the EFL and the anglofied ESL.
Caleb Smith
Which dialects?
Do you have any audio recordings of it being pronounced as /e/?
Nah it's more like it makes absolutely no sense to just drop an integral part of the vowel
It's one fucking letter, if that confuses you you shouldn't be looking at IPA transcriptions
Fucking cunts
Mason Wilson
Not a problem for us.
Asher Moore
>Do you have any audio recordings of it being pronounced as /e/?
lel.ed.ac.uk
Scottish, Irish, and northern English dialects all pronounce it as monophthongs. Possibly some American dialects too but I've not checked all of them.
>it's more like it makes absolutely no sense to just drop an integral part of the vowel
Is it integral? Are you as likely to notice if someone had said [bet] rather than [beJt] than if someone had said [bad] instead of [bɛd]?
Oliver Cooper
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