When did the people living in each french region start identifying with the Frankish people and Frankish identity or...

When did the people living in each french region start identifying with the Frankish people and Frankish identity or the Frankish kingdom?

Because you can be ruled by a certain kingdom but have a different identity.

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No one but the nobles identified with the Franks themselves (besides maybe some people in the northeast)

it happened exactly on the 3rd july 1506 thats when they all decided to become frankish

>you can be ruled by a certain kingdom but have a different identity.
that would be treason
god, king and fatherland

What are you talking about? Europe was full of multi-ethnic polities

>It's another mutt who doesn't understand europe thread

Obsessed angloids just shut up

in 1506 everyone living in today's france self identified their culture and history with that of the frankish people?

you are either a subject of the king or not. you can't have a "different" "identity" than that.

You can be a subject of the king but have a separate ethnic identity

frankish nobility compromised with the people who were all galloromances and also the old roman nobility too so those few thousands franks learned old galloromance so they could speak to each others it is really that simple

a name is simply a name when the franks conquered italy in the ninth century the native italians would tell foreigners they were longobards and if franks never invaded and thus italian city states never taking a hold we probably we would have kept the longobard name for ourselves

They didn't.

an identity separate from what? you imply that they would identify less with the kingdom somehow which is not permissible.

When a kingdom took over another cultures land the other culture did not abandon their own cultural identity and adopt that of the military power.

Tu vas faire la remarque à chaque fois ou c'est comment ?

From the dominant ethnicity of the king/aristocracy. What don’t you understand? The German Holy Roman Emperor didn’t care that the Bohemians spoke Czech or the Slovenians spoke Slovene.

Bah à chaque fois que je serais présent et qu'ils feront des topics à la con pour hameçonner la France ouais je leurb rapellerai à leur toxicité maladive, et toi tu fais quoi abruti à part sucer des kilomètres de queues angloises ?

>When a kingdom took over another cultures land
that's not how kingdoms and culture works autist. kingdoms don't take land from "cultures".
The Holy Roman Emperor didn't wasn't even called German. The kingdom of Germany was subordinated to the Holy Roman Empire.

>The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation

Moi j'ai autre chose à foutre que de mener une pseudo-croisade contre les étrangers sur 4mentons

See here, not everyone here identified as austrian or knew what austrian culture is. They just knew about the austrian soldiers there to collect the taxes.

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You are wrong. In 5-6th century you already had frankish villages in extreme South of current France. We found several Mausoleums from this date in the south.
And about nobility, you sincerely think that all frankish people were nobles ? You had peasants, common soldats, bakers etc

You’re not Frankish, you’re a Gaul

They only renamed the empire to that after the kingdom of Italy and other territories were lost, at which point basically only the kingdom of Germany was still a part of the empire.

that happened much much later when they lost italian territories you retard

>You are wrong. In 5-6th century you already had frankish villages in extreme South of current France.
Sure, but they were a minority amongst other cultural identities such as catalans, aquitanians, gascons etc..

Évidemment tu as tellement à faire ici, non en fait tu fais rien mais tes quand même là mdr, la definition du npc, va te pendre tu sers rien.

The HRE used Latin as official language until 1782.

>Their national hero is named Charles DA GAUL
much to think about

Bretons and basques of course.

Still filled with non-Germans you morons

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Why is Odenburg/Sopron in Hungary? Hungary lost a lot of territory after WW1, were the allies just interested in fucking over Austria more?

>not everyone here identified as austrian
Those who lived in Austria were Austrians. People from Austria are Austrians.
>or knew what austrian culture is
What would Austrian culture be if not the culture of Austrians? Someone from Bolzano wasn't culturally identical to an Austrian from Troppau but they were both Austrians and their culture "Austrian".

They cheated on the plebiscite

that gaul in de gaulle is the frenchification of der walle a dutch surname which checks since de gaulle destroyed the real france vichy france

Germany itself was made up of many different cultural identities too.

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because germans were the dominant ethnicity in that empire i dont understand whats your point

Touche de l'herbe tocard

Pretty much everything within that map was part of the kingdom of Germany so actually they were all Germans.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Germany

Mais non de gaule means to describe when your dick is hard rock solid

And? Does that change the fact that it was a polity dominated by German speakers, under which multiple non-German ethnic groups lived while keeping their ethnic identity but still pledging fielty to their German sovereign?

It's all Germans

>Danes
Swedish Germans
>Walloons
French Germans
>Burgundians
Gaulish Germans
>Italians
Spaghetti Germans
>Czechs
Slavic Germans
>Poles
Stupid Germans

charles de gaulle is original from flemish lands checks his wikipedia

La répartie de dingue, t'as mieux à faire t'as dit alors dégage salope

My point is that before the rise of nationalism is was acceptable for people to be of a different ethnic identity than the dominant ethnicity in their polity