How did they go from being the cradles of human civilization to shitholes?

How did they go from being the cradles of human civilization to shitholes?

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Shitty governance

they got a headstart
give it a few more millenia and the rest of us will become shithole too

In mesoamerica chichimecas & spaniards destroyed everything. I feel bad for the olmecs

> In mesoamerica chichimecas & spaniards destroyed everything.

How niggery were the chichis ?

We realized something you will realize soon

all civilisations collapse, user
you can see the west collapse in real time

>chichimecas
Retard, it was my people who helped destroy the rest of mesoamerica

t. Descendant of Tlaxcalteca nobles

Mainly just because those civilizations are too old to have anything to do with modern times.
On another note, any civilization goes to shit after its controlled by generations of the same family for long enough. You just keep compounding bullshit and have less and less deserving leaders with each new passing of the crown.

Is Greece that bad now?

china is decent country tho

imagine continuously admitting the west is currently the best while waiting for a fall from being the best that will never come
imagine doing that for decades straight, hoping it will collapse next year, totally unaware that because that won't happen you are signaling you believe the west is the best and everything else is inferior

were far better off than you

The cradles of civilization would have been absolute shitholes back then too. Agriculture was a mistake.

Religion.

>complains about civilization
>ignores the vast wilderness he could drive into the middle of and spend the rest of his life lost in

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Yeah but I was raised in civilization so I don't know how to do that and I can't be fucked to figure it out.

what are you even going on about?
Yes the West at its peak was great and is still good but it's falling, it won't die in an instant

all of them but Greece are river based civilizations , geographically speaking river based civilizations are easier to form but they're also easy to invade so there's that.

When the west still isn't collapsed by the time you are an old man will you... feel silly? Feel... inferior? What if your country is even worse off than it is now? Oh God that sounds awful.

Yucatan peninsula is fairly nice. It's better than the rest of Mexico in many ways.

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You literally are using the most convenient learning tool ever devised and evidently have plenty of free time since you're spending time here. Get bent.

Chichimecas despite being borderline cavemen 500 years ago now live in the better off northern and bajio regions near first world standards while their former mesoamerican superiors live in slums or soulless apartment towers as drones.

t. Tepehuan bvll.

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The world changed. They were important because they had densely laid out fertile land. Food isn't nearly as scarce anymore, and travel is easier.
Desertification didn't help.

The West is collapsing in real time. In about a decade the ultimate blow will be delivered when China militarily strikes and defeats you. After that, you'll be turned into vassals for non Western superstates. I just hope my country continues to maintain its neutrality.