What is the relationship like in France between Nafris descended of Harkis who fought for France in the Algerian War of...

We were never a colony, your king declared us a part of France remember?

What do you young people think of Harkis and their descendants?

We don't really care anymore.

Yeah like kikes never switched teams in history. Not at all.
Once all muslim countries (except Algeria) will normalize with them.
I hope you like being called antisemitic by a Jordanian kek

Are there any differences in behavior or social status for Harkis and their descendants from other Nafris? Are they more secular? More integrated?

Is the reason they hider Harki status because later Nafri immigrant waves are larger in number and therefore the dominant Nafri culture in France so they would get (or gotten) bullied?

>>they use it to declare independence
there were no interest/desire from the arab population for that even wat in the early 20th, it started as an equal right movement. It soured into a violent conflict way after (Setif massacre in 1945 was a starting point).

The idea of an independant algeria with colonists kicked out was unthinkable for both sides until the Algerian war really. Algeria was a french departement with like a million settler, not really your average protectorate.

As always, it doesn't even matter. Colonialism has been a large mistake the way it was done. Poor french people paid for it then, poor ethnic people will pay for it now.
I consider today's France as a colony of Algeria.

I'm asking why would Algerians not talk about it not why Jews do

Listening to a moor telling me I have no rights to my land, kek
How's the humiliation of last week going for you ?
Speak for yourself, here we're always reminded to never trust french nafris.

Why?
What do you think of Morocco normalizing ties with Israel?

>here we're always reminded to never trust french nafris.
Where is here? Are MOST French Nafris descendants of Harkis?

what are you talking about schizophrenic, i am just saying french didnt give equal rights to algerians for clear normal reasons
just like the irish just wanted home rule, never independence

If you were the son of a criminal, would you talk about it to the public?
That's how they feel, even if they didn't do anything wrong.
True, but at least you still have plenty of islands to test nuclear missiles and a chunk of south america.

What I know for certain is harki vote for the far right a lot, they're one of their main demographic (anti-de gaulle sentiment shared with the pied noir demographic, co-opted by the far right since decades).

>Are they more secular? More integrated?
Making this comparaison doesnt make sense, most of them came in 1962. Who are you comparing them to, to their 400,000+ Algerian living in Paris pre-the algerian war and their descendant? To the million+ algerian that came in the 70s to work in france? The one that came after the 90s because of the civil war?
And those waves mixed they're not uniform.
Algerian migration in France came in different waves, it's a complex subject.
For exemple I have a grand father that was a soldier in WW2 for France and came here after 1945, while my mom's side is only here only recently.
The other marker is migration from a rural conservative region or from a big liberal city etc.

Algeria was an integral part of France hate on me if you want but it’s facts

They would have gotten independance in the 70s at the latest even if there was no war. The conflict was a stupid waste of lives.

The algerian independance is a mix of different events : the indochina war in the 50s where tens of thousands of Algerians served and understood their colonial conditions and got their first military training for many, the WW2 where Algerian saw an humiliated, occuped France and where thousands of Algerian served (my grandfather), and you have the soviet backing during the cold war wanting to weaken western european colonial powers. You can at best see the rif war at a precursor.
Algerian independance was absolutely not an option before WW2, and no one supported/wanted it even on the Algerian side, it didn't made sense. It wasn't some sort of inevitable wave.
Probably why it was such a traumatic event for France, it was very unexpected.

But isn't it like
> French rape and colonize Algeria
> They go back
> It's called "Algerian migration"

True or false?

no shot the millions of pied noirs would have accepted to be merged into a newly formed muslim dominated democratic socialist country. And no shot France accept to give up on so much much oil/gas. (look at the current situation)

maybe with some sort of pied noir israel like state centred around 3 big cities/oran in the middle of a bigger middle one.

We see it as ass kissing, it can't do shit against us.
They have to cuck to the USA for weapons and diplomatic leverage and that by israeli approval.
Whilst we buy iranian and Russian tech with no restrictions.
>where is here
Kabylie
>are most french nafris harkis
Anything that speaks french should be shot

I understand, what I meant is that the end was going to be the same whether the french had given algerians political rights or not so there was really no reason for them to do so.

"harkis" descendant here,
I don't think that we have a bad relationship with the newly immigrated algerians unless the "harki" descendant is not muslim.

>What do Algerians from Algeria think of Harkis?
i heard that they hate they hate harkis and they don't see their descendant as Algerians.

>most of them hide this (shame I guess).
i don't think they do, my mum's family is very vocal it, i guess we don't mention it much because it doesn't make a difference. for exemple :

my fellow Algerian will not treat me differently (unless they know i'm not muslim). And the french will still be racist toward me. so i just say i'm algerian when people ask me.

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>That's how they feel, even if they didn't do anything wrong.
But they're in France. Doesn't make sense to hide it. I imagine the French populace would be more open to Harkis than other Arabs. UNLESS the places where Harkis live where were eventually overrun with later immigrant waves from Algeria and they were subsumed into this group

Ignore this guy, people like this is the reason why people treat us like terrorists.