French historian Jean Froissart describes the Irish

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>I must tell you, to give you a clearer idea of the campaign, that Ireland is one of the most difficult countries in the world to fight against and subdue, for it is a strange, wild place consisting of tall forests, great stretches of water, bogs and uninhabitable regions...

>The Irish hide in the woods and forests, where they live in holes dug under trees, or in bushes and thickets, like wild animals. ...

>They carry sharp knives, with a big double-edged blade, like the head of a throwing-spear, with which they kill their enemies. And they never leave a man for dead until they have cut his throat like a sheep and slit open his belly to remove the heart, which they take away.

>Some, who know their ways, say that they eat it with great relish. They take no man for ransom, and when they see that they are getting the worst of a fight, they scatter and take cover in thickets and bushes and under the ground. So they disappear and it is impossible to know where they have gone to. ...

>Even Sir William of Windsor, who had longer experience of campaigning on the Irish border than any other English knight, never succeeded in learning the lie of the country or in understanding the mentality of the Irish, who are very dour people, proud and uncouth, slow-thinking and hard to get to know or make friends with.

>They have no respect for pleasant manners or for any gentleman, for, although their country is ruled by kings, of whom there are a large number, they will have nothing to do with courtly behaviour, but cling to the rough ways in which they have been brought up...

>The Irish are a poor and nasty people, with a miserable country that is quite uninhabitable.

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The English and Scottish taught the Irish how to bathe, read, write, live in permanent wooden housing, do math. They also forbade them from engaging in cannibalism, incest, pedophilia, necrophilia and zoophilia. Irish people were quite literally on the level of sub Saharan Africans before the British civilized them.

Geraldus Cambrensis recorded a ceremony among the Irish:
>There is in a northern and remote part of Ulster, among the Kenelcunil, a certain tribe which is wont to install a king over itself by an excessively savage and abominable ritual. In the presence of all the people of this land in one place, a white mare is brought into their midst. >Thereupon he who is to be elevated, not to a prince but to a beast, not to a king but to an outlaw, steps forward in beastly fashion and exhibits his bestiality. Right thereafter the mare is killed and boiled piecemeal in water, and in the same water a bath is prepared for him.
>He gets into the bath and eats of the flesh that is brought to him, with his people standing around and sharing it with him. He also imbibes the broth in which he is bathed, not from any vessel, nor with his hand, but only with his mouth.
>When this is done right according to such unrighteous ritual, his rule and sovereignty are consecrated.

cannibalism, incest, pedophilia, necrophilia and zoophilia

These were all very common in Ireland before the British prohibited them from engaging in them.

didn't stop the English from fucking them in the ass for centuries

I honestly think all the most retarded and savage Irish died in the famine or emigrated. There's no other way to explain the discrepancy between descriptions like these and the modern upstanding Irish nation.

My brothers

The Irish have the oldest litterary tradition in the british isles.
Anglos were absolute monkeys when Irish wrote wonders of litterature

Lel

Yes... The famous Irish wonders everyone knows of like errr

That's just irish cope delusion and fantasy
I cannot even name one irish writer

At the time Froissart was writing in the 14th century Ireland had been in a constant condition of war between the Irish and Anglo-Normans since the invasion of 1169. As an American you're familiar with the Missour-Kansas border war no doubt. Imagine if that lasted from 1169-1542 (and was subsequently replaced with something much worse) before you pass too harsh a judgement on the condition of late medieval Irish civilisation.


It's closer to the truth to say the Irish taught the English to read and write via the Northumbrian mission. Ireland has an older literary tradition than England. If you read Bede who wrote in the 8th century he speaks warmly about Ireland educating English students free of charge.


This is true and it is shameful and grotesque, but it only survived in one very isolated pocket. Don't judge a country by one group of hillbillies in the medieval period.

St Columba and such weren't Ìrish and in fact were massacred by the irish because the irish considered them foreign picts

Bram Stoker?

The "ancient" irish literary tradition comes from a total of 3000 lines of literature all surviving in 12th century on manuscripts

Ireland is an island on the fringe cut off from Europe by Britain through geopgraphy and a policy of centuries of enforced isolation. There are 14th century Italian chronicles which describe the Irish as cyclopses and immortals like faraway African and Asian lands. It's no wonder people in Turin and Regensburg weren't up to speed with Irish medieval literature. Nevertheless it did exercise influence on the European cultural patrimony indirectly via its influence on Welsh (and English and French) Arthurian literature and also on Macpherson's plagiarised Ossianic cycle, which is the reason 'Oskar' is a name in mainland Europe.

You've never heard of John Scotus Eriugena, the Táin Bó Cuailnge, James Joyce, W. B. Yeats, Oscar Wilde, Samuel Beckett etc.?

The only reason we can trace the descent of the Belgic Menapian tribe is through the genealogies in Irish epic literature. They are the only Celtic tribe whose descendants we can identify by genetic markers today.

>Macpherson's plagiarised Ossianic cycle
You have the wrong opinion. The Irish opinion is the Gaelic manuscripts are real but they are actually Irish. Please use the correct Irish opinion.

That's because they wrote in old irish
No one except historians can read what they wrote anymore but they used to be a big deal

Saint Columba was Irish and traveled to the land of the Picts. Nobody has ever said that he was a Pict. You've badly garbled and misunderstood whatever Scottish nationalist fantasy you've read because even the most insane Scottish chauvinists don't claim Saint Columba was a Pict.

If the Belgic tribe is in Ireland then Pictish is Scottish gaelic

So u be sayin dat u wuz belgians?

That Macpherson plagiarised his epic from ballads is the orthodox academic opinion, not some concoction of Irish nationalists. Only Scottish chauvinists still defend the authenticity of his work.

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Some were, in the southeast and also in part of the north, in the county of Fermanagh, whose name means 'Men of the Menapii'.

It was never a big deal and never will be
Its entire extant use was celtic etymology
The Chronicles of Tighernach say as afar as they 8th century ulster was Pictish, not the same as Albannach, yet you dare question them?
Its amazing how illiterate you are in it yet you scream as an authority.
Please piss off you utter nonce
Ive already Disproven you many times and you know it
Crawl back to your fenian hole

Lmfao the menappi spoke Gaelic and colonised all of Ireland, northern Britain, southern Britain, mann and north wales
Only the inland parts kept P-Celtic

Almost all medieval literature comes down from us later manuscripts than the original. In Ireland it's a wonder as much survived as it did given the dampness of the catastrophic disruptions and attacks on the native culture since the Viking raids on and the dampness of the climate.

Scholars use precise linguistic and historical criteria to date material. Would you rather they instead dated material based solely on the age of the manuscripts? As it happens we do have plenty of much earlier material than those manuscripts on the marginalia of continental European manuscripts written by Irish scribes.

>Only Scottish chauvinists still defend the authenticity of his work.
No one in Scotland defends it or knows about
You are an utter cretionous fool

Seething is not disproving my laddie.

Stop with your Fenian lies
Its disgusting
No wonder Ireland has been an eternal bog after the Irish Picts were wiped out