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Most entrepeneurs in America aren't rich

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>upper middle class to balance out the elites' power
Nigga what

Kek. There are only two groups of people that have power. Media elites and tech elites. They decide public opinion and control politics through it. Both are decidedly left wing.

Lmao

Do you have any idea what “left” means? Just because they put rainbows on their logo for one month, it doesn’t mean they’re left, they’re just following trends in the age of social media.

Not the same thing tankie retards. Most Russian oligarchs were Soviet bureaucrats that looted the USSR as it collapsed. They continue to hold a corrupting level of influence today. It's not a general label applied to any wealthy Russian person, nobody calls Pavel Durov an oligarch, he's just a "Russian billionaire".

Oligarchs are parasitical scum that turned the country into an authoritarian petro cartel - they didn't create value, they stole it, and continue to hold enormous leverage over Russian politics.

nice bait

>Not the same thing tankie retards.

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>Not real leftism

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We have a very large upper middle class that regularly votes for higher taxes on the ultrarich and public financing of elections. That's why we can still pursue anti-elite politics and Russia can't.

The rich have only seen their taxes decrease since the 60s.

>No stupid, the American oil tycoons that send donor money to make politicians invade Iraq are different because uhhh... communism

nice projection. your bullshit with trying to introduce the term 'oligarch' into american parlance is typical of leftist effetness, just meaningless battles over word choice and semantics. latinx/ PoC / they/them, etc, very weak.

now kill yourself.

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US just has better propaganda.

Holy kek. And what has your anti-elite president done for the ultra rich? Lowered their taxes. You have no power mutt. Only the illusion of it.

lol, this isn’t a debate about china or former soviet nations being “real leftists” or not, what you’re saying is unequivocally false and is born out of your confusion and ignorance.

No shit, they create the nation's wealth. That's like saying that the way to make Korea rich is to get rid of the chaebols.

Most of Russia's oligarchs were entrepreneurial schemers who through various means managed to buy or otherwise acquire shares of national industries during privatization
>They continue to hold a corrupting level of influence today.
Just like any other oligarch
>he's just a "Russian billionaire".
Durov isn't a billionaire
>Oligarchs are parasitical
Imma stop you right there. An oligarch by any sane definition is just a businessman who controls sufficient resources to influence national politics or has a symbiotic relationship with it.
By that definition even Elon Musk is an oligarch, not to mention the myriad of other US business leaders who influence policy or benefit from it

>Redditspeak

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>upper middle class that regularly votes for higher taxes on the ultrarich
False and also entirely irrelevant as to whether one is oligarch or not

>We can still have anti-elite politics
>Why yes they serve the elite and that's a good thing

Anti-elite politics that serve the elite is called controlled opposition user

They bought shares in natural resources companies for much less than what they were actually worth, not because they are good at recognizing asset values but because of cooperation from state officials

>dude you know Mark Zuckerberg?
>well he's totally like those Russian oligarchs that had ties to the KGB and while their country was collapsing they managed to privatize public enterprises for pennies and now have billions of dollars while their countrymen live in the mud

What's your point? An oligarch is someone who controls enough resources to influence policy and exercises that ability. How they got there is irrelevant

Look up what the actual definition of oligarch is

>A very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence

Unironically wrong in Russias case, the oligarchs dont have political influence, they are only allowed to remain in their position because they surrendered much of their money directly to putin when he came to power. He influences them, not the other way around.

oligarch
>appointed by politicians (top down)
capitalist elite
>appoints politicians (bottom up)
oligarch
>family is given positions of power in other areas like military and finance
capitalist elite
>family given powerful positions in company or industry only
oligarch
>relatively high taxes in exchange for safety in the economy
capitalist elite
>relatively low taxes in exchange for the government having no liability for them fucking up

he's right, liberals aren't left winged, they're center right at best
liberalism supports corporations, while actual leftism supports the workers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs