Finland opened a new nuclear thing
Does your country like the nuclear age and the cultural implications of science?
Finland opened a new nuclear thing
Luke White
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Aaron Powell
>Finland opened a new nuclear thing
Sincere congrats Finland!
And it's the first of its kind (EPR technology) in Europe! and almost in the world but China beat you to it and they already have completed two of them.
As for ourselves, yes we're building EPRs too, but the first encountered many delays so it's not ready yet.
The gov't planned six more before the Ukraine crisis, now it may very well be even more than that.
We don't especially like it in my cunt, but most realize it's the only really viable solution until fusion or microwaves beamed from orbit are ready.
Nathan Fisher
And it only took 20 years to complete, 14 years behind schedule and 300% overbudget and is the most overengineered reactor design in history
The Japanese built the last ABWRs at Kashiwazaki Kariwa in less than 3 years
The Russian built and completed 6 reactors Leningrad-II, Novovoronezh-II, Astravets in half the time it toke you to start one
Lets not even talk about china
Ryder Young
>And it only took 20 years to complete, 14 years behind schedule and 300% overbudget and is the most overengineered reactor design in history
urghh, something obviously went wrong in the building, i read the same thing about a reactor in normandy or so.
Daniel Evans
>Lets not even talk about china
China also bought the very same EPR technology and its reactor at Taishan-1 is the single most powerful reactor ever built.
Now Finland joined the club (and eventually France will finally complete its first one too).
This single reactor will provide fully 14% of Finland's needs by itself.
Xavier Green
>urghh, something obviously went wrong in the building, i read the same thing about a reactor in normandy
Yes. You don't take chances with security when building nuclear plants. It has to be perfect, or redone again and again.
The delays (in China, Finland, France, we're building one in the UK too) are due to construction companies (different in all four locations) failing to deliver to the agreed standards.
But it's brand new technology, probably they've learnt the trade while building their first one and the following will be built much faster (and for cheaper).
Kevin Bell
>Does your country like the nuclear age and the cultural implications of science?
Most people do. Oil and coal companies and the green political party hates it.
Ryder Price
pls no bully
Noah Cox
Greens are fucking schizo
Ian Mitchell
Congratulations Finland
Colton Turner
Naw, we could have but we bitched out.
Isaiah Bailey
We have 150+ nukes and like 20 nuclear reactors for power generation but that's abysmally low for our population
Grayson Clark
french planned to build like 9000 reactors now, but they built like 10 or 20
Connor Howard
>Yes. You don't take chances with security when building nuclear plants. It has to be perfect, or redone again and again.
>The delays (in China, Finland, France, we're building one in the UK too) are due to construction companies (different in all four locations) failing to deliver to the agreed standards.
thats the bs with nuclear
basically if gubbernment or military dont like it (and they usually don't) you can wait regulations and other shit forever
and it make whole thing and industry inefficient
so yeah "small" semi-autonomous reactors are better imho, more practical things
Noah Hughes
Meanwhile the Germs are re-opening coal plants lmao
Brayden Lewis
>but they built like 10 or 20
We have 56 reactors at the moment (not counting the ones under construction), and have closed down many old ones already.
Sebastian Harris
No, Uranium is too spicy for us and we don't like the risk of potentially getting Fukushima'd every 5-10 years.
Nicholas Russell
french program was to built 9000 reactors by the 1980, and fly into space on that thing (you can easily connect them to the soil of france)
Cooper Taylor
>french program was to built 9000 reactors by the 1980
No, kek
Currently, we have largely what we need (more than 70% of our electricity production, and the priority is in fact hydro which covers 11%).
And we're planning to build six more (EPR) in the near future. That means we'll have 63.
Angel White
What it went wrong is that the germans who got involved in the EPR in the 90s started to severely overcomplicate the design and adding active redundancies rather than passive safety
The N4 from which the EPR derives is already too big the EPR should have been reduced in power from 1500MWe/4250MWt to 1200MWe/3300MWt, which is in the sweet-spot between scale and replicability for a standard nuclear program
The problem of Germany and France trying to fuse the designs of the Framatome N4 and the Siemens Konvoi is that they ended with a design much bigger and complicated than it needed to be and despite being more powerful than the N4 and Konvoi is physically smaller which makes it a nightmare to build, the EPR ended with varius features it cant really use
What Framatome realized is that if they want to build new reactors in France they need to "De-Germanize" the EPR and make it less powerful and less complicated
Justin Evans
not really, THOUGH, that was the thing
Aiden Jenkins
Yes, but it was later realized that the projected energy needs (made for the 2000s in the 1970s) had been overestimated. Meanwhile, the reactors had become more powerful.
So it was found that 56 modern ones were enough, no need for 170.
Logan White
>something obviously went wrong in the building
The project was poorly planned from the beginning and it's goals were unrealistic on multiple fields, especially when taking into consideration the sheer incompetence and the lack of experience of the contractors. The expenses skyrocketed and that piece of engineering in the middle of nowhere is now the 6th most expensive building in the world.
11,000,000,000€
Luis Green
nah, in fact these plans just largely failed but so did the 'economic' plans of france... so that could happen but only in advanced simulation and reality turned out to be different
Isaiah Evans
What does binland think about hydro and wind ? I hate hydro because it completely fucks up the landscape and biome