Tomatoes and potatoes are from the new world, which means Italian cuisine had no tomatoes before that

Tomatoes and potatoes are from the new world, which means Italian cuisine had no tomatoes before that.
Can you imagine Italian food without tomatoes? What a terrible thought

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yes, i can

I eat tomatoes like apples

Imagine you Ireland with no potato?

This has to be bait
Didn't the Irish literally grow potatoes and die because of a potato famine?
Tomatoes, I might be more inclined to believe, but still sounds like bullshit. No Tomatoes in the entire Old World for thousands of years up until the 1600s? fucking grim

It'd just be Ireland with a lot less Irish

Same

Some amerindian nationalists here claim pizza was invented by them

I've heard this but I don't believe. How did noone from the entire old world not just white europeans notice that red tomatoes are more edible than green ones

i don't know man, i just wanna cum in some whore's mouth

Apples and oranges are chinese

Did you know how Brazil give as gift to Middle East, the addiction to tobacco and coffee?

There were no tomatoes in Europe at the time. They were brought in during the 1600s. We had other nightshade plants but they are all poisonous.

Coffee is african

yeah easily
they still have olive oil, garlic, cheese, basil, cured meats and those other traditional ingredients
what would they not have exactly? pizza? not real food
bolognese? poorfag food, not important
what else?

A portuguese trader owner of plantations of tobacco and coffee, travel to Middle East, and was Trading with his friend, some otoman soldier that was fight with greeks, and he just give a cigar and coffee to him... And the rest

Basil is asian
Pizza can be without tomatoes
You can have sauces without tomatoes
Plums are chiness

>This has to be bait
no it's not you baboon
go look it up
>american education

Tobacco is some mutt shit

So what did the Irish eat then before Potatoes? Why did they all starve to death? Why couldn't they eat what they ate before?

This entire channel is Italian cooking before tomatoes and potatoes
youtube.com/c/HistoricalItalianCooking

95% of my region's cuisine would be the exact same

Yes but it made early america rich as fuck baby
We had Tobacco Plantations

Brazilian tobacco, is why USA, the mutt birth

Wheat, sheep, cheese, oats, barley, herbs

>the mutt nation birth
Fix.

Cows, horses, goats

>Basil is asian
but it was introduced much sooner than the tomato, no?
>Pizza can be without tomatoes
my bad, i always thought the first pizza was tomato+mozzarella
apparently any form of flat bread+topping has been considered pizza for a very long time
>You can have sauces without tomatoes
well obviously yes

Don't insult pizza.

A British dude, see with jealous the tobacco prospering on Bahia State, Brazil, so he robbed some tobacco plants, used the same system of plantations and founded a kind of Indian Company with the same system of slavery, called Virginia State...

And what happened to those? Why was the potato famine such a big deal then?

USA was more created to be a Jamaica of tobacco, than such nation... This just change with pilgrims

The fire nation attacked

based

Polenta is a very italian food, made with corn

Me too, I but black pepper on it THOUGH

We had chickens and hazelnuts.

Corn is also from the new world

Polenta is of roman origin, they used wheat, before use corn

Chickpeas, lentils

It's called semolina and bread was made with semola, the pasta as well, like couscous

How about reading a book for once.
I can't even decide if you're trolling or not.

This is nothing, we have nigga corn in South America

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You're an embarrassment to the flag.

Westerns will not know what is this, but africans and south asians know
>cassava, mandioca, yuca

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We made potions with wildflowers

Portuguese traders in Nigeria, India, Indonesia, Angola, give this Brazilian/American root as a form to their colonized or trade influenced nations, suport hard times of starvation