Why is this word so fucking hard for me as an ESL to pronounce with a soft American "t"...

Why is this word so fucking hard for me as an ESL to pronounce with a soft American "t"? I have no problem saying "letter" with a soft t. Soft t after r comes out a mess for me, I either have to pronounce a hard t or a hard d.

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Practice saying it like the -dh or voiced -th sound

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because you're not pronouncing r correctly most likely.
me? i don't say r in that position at all.

Are you pronouncing the R as you would an R in most other languages? If you don't have it as /ɹ/ it's difficult to pronounce because our "soft t" is actually an R-sound /ɾ/.

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Yeah but I don't speak with a (fake) Australian accent, more of a (fake) American accent. I could drop the r in shorter but then it'd sound like a New York Italian American accent or something. I also don't pronounce "popular" without the "y" after "pop", which I think is a New York accent maybe.

Shorder

user, you absolutely have to pronounce the y after pop in popular. I don't know of any accent which doesn't do that.

I and many others in this country pronounce it this way

As I said I do pronounce the y. Watch Actionkid on youtube. He's from New York and he doesn't pronounce the y in popular and similar words.
>popular
>regular
>populous
etc
Just his latest video:
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You mean with a hard d as in herder, hoarder, harder? That's not the sound in letter.

If you can't pronounce "shorter" with a flapped t [ɾ], you can get away with pronouncing it as a normal [t]. Not all American dialects have the flapped t and even the ones that do will often pronounce as [t] when carefully enunciating the word. Don't stress over it.

t and d both become /ɾ/ in those positions, but most americans hear it as just another /d/

What are you talking about? I speak the American r, and also the rolling r in Swedish, same as Scottish, and I don't see how there is one tap of a rolling r in those words.

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You sound American, perfect. I wish I could speak Swedish the way you speak American. I hate you

Well it's hit or miss, came out decent there but it doesn't always, with the word "shorter".

say
>there are better days ahead, but also bitter ones

I hate you. I don't want to go to Scandinavia because I'll feel embarrassed by you people

shore-der

Actually the last year or two I've noticed I'm starting to have problems pronouncing Swedish, seems like I'm developing a speech impediment sometimes.

just realized I pronounce it as
pop-pew-ler
wtf

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SHORE-DER!!!!!!
YOU WILL GET IT EVERY TIME!!!

Yeah there's supposed to be a y, but a small percentage say it without the y.
>pɑpjəlɚ

When you make this r, are you moving your tongue? It doesn't need to move at all, so you can save it for making the t sound. Try making the r without moving your tongue at all, then flick it to the top when making the t.

Shorter rhymes with hoarder

why is he ignoring me :(

Disgusting

big question is why do you want to sound like american?

which post?

Saying it like shore-der sniff :<
you didn't notice me at all senpai..