I don't get it. Why don't they just accept and end this?

Considering the original objective was (and maybe still is) to annex Ukraine? Yeah. If he just wanted the two shitty provinces he would have attacked that region not the whole fucking country.
Anyway, if the EU doesn't get Ukraine, China will overtake the neutral country as the only economic superpower that is available. What is the fucking Russian plan? Just let them join the fucking EU already its better than the chinks.

You know what would be funny?
If Ukraine agreed to not join any blocks, then after Russian troops leave Ukraine, they join NATO
The fuck is monke gonna do then

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You are genuinely retarded and your parents are definitely ashamed of you.

>Stay out of NATO and EU which means Russian oligarch influence
As opposed to western oligarchical influence it has right now. Also, don't make military pacts on their borders, simple as
>Recognize invaded territory as the territory of another country
Invaded=bad.
Crimea was always Russian, they took it back
>Recognize separatist regions bombed to the ground by Russians as Russian
HAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
damn what fucking sophistry, now it's the RUSSIANS who are bombing it? Shut the fuck up idiot
>All these demands while Russia is failing catastrophically
HAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Brainwashed NPC ghost of cucumber dumbass. My God how easy it is to manipulate narratives for retards

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Russia is not in any position to be making demands. The country is going to fucking collapse.

and what's to guarantee russia wouldn't just invade them again in 5 years then?

Your ESL is slowing vatnik.

Why would anyone trust Russia? Y'know, the country which signed a document protecting Ukraine's territorial integrity in exchange for the country's nukes, only to turn around and invade anyways

based schizo

>Stay out of NATO and EU which means Russian oligarch influence
What the fuck does NATO or EU have to do with business? Russia is still the largest foreign investor in Ukraine, their largest telecom is owned in part by a Russian oligarch. Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs are gonna do businesses there anyway, it doesn't matter.
>separatist regions bombed to the ground by Russians
? They were literally bombed by Ukrainians you lying faggot lmao
>already has half the country and all the critical infrastructure
>Russia is failing catastrophically
Lmao you literal glownigger shill

Can't even tell if you subhumans are just literal shills now or actually this stupid
>your land
Lol
>promise not to do the thing that would prevent us from doing this again and we don't do it again
You know we literally claim the entire western fucking hemisphere for our "security" right?
But Russia not wanting massive border states in a nuclear armed military pact designed specifically to destroy Russia, then trying to mantain this security through 10 billion other methods that the USA ignores, finally resorting to military pressure? No, can't be because LE RUSSIA BAD

I don't see why they don't just do this honestly.

But... I thought the special operation was to demilitarize the nazis?

>Any Forums found Any Forums and thinks we suck pootin cock like him

They are retarded. The manlet is probably too scared of looking weak.

Dude if Ukraine cannot join the EU then it is literally fucking doomed to forever be a shithole in the corner of Europe, any hope at all for a better future will disappear instantly. EU gibs and the pressure to fix corruption is the only way to fix these eastern european states that are otherwise irreparable due to decades of communism and russian influence

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The NATO thing is a cope. The real reason is because Ukraine has big ass natural gas fields.

t. knower

you also promised you'd protect them

Same guarantee as before in the last 30 years before they began threatening to join NATO
>le bot
Kill yourself

can they just secretly join NATO without Russian knowledge? It seems like it would have to be a public process and Russia would find out about it.

please remove this illicit image at once

>average
>only boomers

neither the iranian nor the north korean governments have collapsed cause of you sanctions

do you think NATO isn't already able to nuke russia if they wanted to or something?
>You know we literally claim the entire western fucking hemisphere for our "security" right?
what does that have to do with it clearly being a shit deal for Ukraine?

Ahhhhhh the RUSSIA BAD YOU POL cope now being peddled on this shithole board for the millionth time
Try another boogyeman, you have like 5

Because they are winning and enjoying killing Russians in Scooby-Doo Zorro vans.

>I need Ukraine banan to prevent Orangutan invasion through Ukrain border
>Even though I'd nuke the invading army at the border and any country, along with their allies, that set a single centimeter inside of Russian borders

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Ukraine is kicking the shit out of Russia, which is running out of troops, material for the war, and is on the economic clock. No reason to take a bad deal.

we never promised this, we explicitly promised the opposite

>Must recognise Crimea as part of Russia
>Must recognise the eastern separatist regions as independent
Why would the Ukrainians accept that?

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They never relied on them to begin with.

There's always spies.
And the Ukraine entree has to be voted by all NATO countries

so.. no guarantee at all then? it's a shit deal.

Third worlder input on western politics isnt needed

He was doing this yesterday

>do you think NATO isn't already able to nuke russia if they wanted to or something?
What is MAD? parking a nuke that close disintegrates its effectiveness. Remember Cuba?
And it's not just nukes, it's military bases and military intelligence. It's joining the American empire
>what does that have to do with it clearly being a shit deal for Ukraine?
You're stupid, period. Trying to delegitmize Russia's security concerns in regards to Ukraine while simultaneously belonging to a country who claims half the world for their security

I am amazed most anons seem unaware. This ends they get in nato. It's not even a question. It will be instant.

Because War is profitable, Ukraine is enjoying playing victim right now. The world has become polarized, they just put an iron curtain around Russia and they want to watch the country burn.

This is never about peace, it's about excuses for war.

The average Russian IS a boomer. All the young Russians are dead.

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nah NATO cockteased ukraine for sure. Then with Russian troops at the border, Biden did the retarded move of saying, "we promise to not send troops", making Putin's decision to invade much easier by removing that variable from the equation.

Kek. The amount of seething pro-russian cucks are giving us is so fucking enjoyable