Lol

Lol

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>perfectly reasonable plan to get good, cheap gas
>germany is forced to scrap it because of american interests in the Ukraine

great stuff haha america is totally not a colonial master

>russian warmongers invade country
>this is all america's fault

>blaming america because russia is sperging out

really? so did we sanction America when this was done by them a dozen times including right next to us?

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Kiev is where Russia was founded is like if your take SP out of Brazil
Russia is doing nothing wrong

Está Kyef

That's what they get for selling away their sovereignity and nationalism to corporate interests.

Not everything is about Murrica you obsessed ching-chong

Muscovy =/= Rus, macaco

Nah man this one's on Putin sperging out. He fucked us over.

what the fuck germany and france

Rus=Russia

>whataboutism
>kiev being russian at some point in the past justifies killing the people who live there now

Muscovy+Novgorod+Ryazan+Vladimir and others = Rus

>>whataboutism
this doesn't answer my question

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We warned them

your instinct to defend your brother is strong

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There are currently three Rus states: Belarus, Ukraine and Muscovy (renamed in 16th century as "Russia"). In addition, there are several Rus nations without a country, like Lemkos, Boykos, etc.

proto-Uk*ainian came from Kuyavia,
proto-Russians came from Masovia back then.
(kyevian) Rus is a made up trash.

The people are being killed because of forced conscription

See

It was renamed Russia because Muscovy united the principalities
So Russia is rightfully the owner

And they Germans are so brainwashes they don't realize ho hard they are being played

They didn't "unite" them all retard, otherwise Belarus and Ukraine wouldn't exist m

All we wanted was to buy some gas and these niggers had to invade the Ukraine ...

Le Rus in chronic include Bulgaria cuz Orthodoxy and Bohemia cuz Slavs.
It's like to study some "east german" states before they migrated to Roman Empire. Lack of historical materials. Many made up and politically motivated speculations. Not cool

You should have.

This is the thing faggots don't get; aggressive invasion and massacre of civilians isn't good depending on who does it.
FUCK the NATO intervention in Yugoslavia
FUCK the US invasion of Iraq
FUCK the NATO intervention in Libya
FUCK the Russian invasion of Ukraine

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Who gives a fuck about Ukraine, they're not EU nor NATO. The Zaporozhia nuclear reactor could fucking explode for all I care

No point in debating , just let your sane arguments make the talking. Truth always wins

america here, it's not us this time, it's brussels

It's not Brussels this time, it's monke in Moscow

No, it's more like Ethiopia trying to annex Egypt because WE WUZ KANGZ N SHEIT
Russians are savages who owe all their culture to the Ukraine and Bulgaria. If the Ukraine and Bulgaria do not want to be part of Asiatic barbaric Russia, then it is not up to the former colony to annex it's master.

The only sane American. But putting Ukraine invasion in the tier as Iraq is satanic. I will never forget the American destruction of bagdade. stuff of nightmares

Dumb gorilla

>You should have.
but herein lies the problem - we didn't
not because the people themselves do not want it, because they do, but because we're literal vassal regimes

so the question here is, if we broke our moral responsibility to punish the evil imperialist bully, in about ten different wars too most of which resulted into an actual refugee crisis that almost distabilized all of Europe and led to Brexit, so if we didn't do shit about this, why are we doing this against Russia and why is my country about to freeze and starve just to punish Russia? How do I, as its citizen, want this? Has anyone asked me? Because I can guarantee you that most people in my country are against any sanctions period. So where are these sanctions and aggression coming from exactly? Does the average German want to be reduced to African levels because their economy is about to implode hardcore? Are they nostalgic of the Weimar regime or something?

What exactly is happening here again?

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Dumb new worlder

Why no go back to the frontiers 5000 years ago? Why pick an arbitrary point in time and claim muh historic borders?