Imagine an alternate universe where Hitler allies with Poland

and promotes the idea of the Central European Master Race

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he would lose just the same. Only consequence is that poland would be more pro immigrant nowadays

Poles being subhuman is the central idea of Nazism

but eastern germans are just slavs in denial

same with austrians

it's crazy how when you push poland up against germany like that, they fit together perfectly
are they soulmates?

the eastern border of Poland was much closer to core Soviet territory than the area from which Operation Barbarossa was launched in 1941
if the invasion started from there, it's not too far stretched to assume Moscow would've fallen imo
this assumes France is still defeated before and the UK and US would obviously still be a problem, but the war with the USSR could've been won
Nazism was much more fixated on Bolshevism than on the Poles
Nazi Germany and Poland had a non-aggression pact and Hitler even attended Pilsudski's funeral
ofc Nazi Germany wouldn't accept Poland as an equal partner, but if they had been willing to cede some territory and become Germany's bitches like Hungary, perhaps Hitler wouldn't have been so brutal to them

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Funny since this idea is promoted in a lot of polish schizo forums like wykop or else, where they say that if Poland allied with Germany against Russia Soviet Union would be no more.

LOL

Hitler had all of Europe on his back, all of the western Europeans were conscripted and were complicit in the war machine and they STILL lost.

Using Lenin as a biological weapon was a mistake.

Daily reminder lebensraum was originally an American idea

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>Funny since this idea is promoted in a lot of polish schizo forums like wykop or else, where they say that if Poland allied with Germany against Russia Soviet Union would be no more.
they are based. you are cringe.

>Hitler had all of Europe on his back, all of the western Europeans were conscripted and were complicit in the war machine
that's not true at all, that's just Nazi propaganda which framed the anti-Soviet war as a European crusade
some non-Germans were recruited from about 1943 onwards, but that was a measure of desparation
most of Europe was occupied by German troops and a burden to secure
foreigners were like a couple ten thousand, maybe hundred thousand at most

yeah Manifest Destiny and Lebensraum are the same thing pretty much but Anglos always project their evils onto others
same thing with blaming le racism on Germans

Your first statement:
I disagree, Hitler intentionally delayed the invasion of Moscow so he could capture oilfields in the south. How would a couple hundred or so miles make a difference.
Second statement:
Hitler also had a pact with Soviets!
They also offered to not go to war if danzig was ceded and they refused.
But I do think that if Hitler had ignored Poland and instead invaded Yugoslavia, and then even Denmark, Norway, and perhaps invaded USSR through Finland, then they could have done it without war on the British, who they could have turned to after Russia fell

Imagine an alternate universe where OP isn’t a faggot

he did try to ally with poland but beck was a retard
poland got an offer to join the anti-comintern pact but they were idiots

everyone would have known that he's deranged

there were a lot of volunteers especially from the netherlands, spain etc.

Don't forget about the industrial cooperation, almost all of Czechia worked to supply the war machine, all Romanian oil fields were used for war, these countries were de facto allies of Germany and guess what happened to Germany.

we're in it. you're the faggot here.

>I disagree, Hitler intentionally delayed the invasion of Moscow so he could capture oilfields in the south. How would a couple hundred or so miles make a difference.
a couple hundred miles would've made a massive difference, German troops literally came into viewing distance of Moscow in 1941
not to mention that the objectives in the northern and southern sectors of the front would've been much closer too
>Hitler also had a pact with Soviets!
>They also offered to not go to war if danzig was ceded and they refused.
fair point, ofc Hitler wasn't to be trusted. But still, I don't think Poland was Hitler's main goal, the USSR was, Nazism wouldn't have even existed without Bolshevism, it was a reactionary ideology.
Maybe Hitler wouldn't have destroyed Poland if they had agreed to cede the corridor and agreed to let Germany use their country as staging ground for an invasion of the USSR
>perhaps invaded USSR through Finland, then they could have done it without war on the British, who they could have turned to after Russia fell
don't think that would've been possible logistically, Germany needed a large land border for the invasion, both the German and Soviet militaries were primarily land based

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Czechia and Romania were tiny countries with barely an economy and military
Czechia was occupied by Germany, Romania was of little use besides the oil
Romanian troops barely had any modern equipment, that's why they were overrun by the Soviets at Stalingrad and switched sides as soon as the Red Army reached their border in 1944

personally I can't think a more boring/depressing place than central europe.
vast flat landscapes with drab grey sky.

it's hell on earth

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>German troops literally came into viewing distance of Moscow in 1941
Yes, and Hitler chose not to push, but to delay the assault as he was concentrating his forces in the South. It wasn't like they got there then were pushed back, they were outside moscow (viewing distance from Officers eye-pieces) for literally months.
>use their country as staging ground for an invasion of the USSR
I agree but I dont think there are any circumstances where poland, an allies of France and Britain, would have agreed to that, unless the USSR literally invaded Poland and they called Germany as an ally.
>don't think that would've been possible logistically
But they could have def taken leningrad quickly and been able to supply it through their Navy, and then could have marched south to take the Baltic which would have technically connected them to Germany if you count the Königsberg area as Germany

What is this meme about flat terrain being ugly

Personally I can't think of a more hellish experience than living in a dysfunctional and dusy Italian devoid of greenery but with 40 degrees of heat and a million honking scooters

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