If Turkey was a Christian country would you consider them European?
If Turkey was a Christian country would you consider them European?
Not really. Maybe the Balkan and perhaps pontic ones
No. If they were a stable democracy we might consider it but they took the dictator pill.
I only consider Italy European, everything else is terra barbarorum.
This but unironically
>Asia Minor
>Europe
Based Spainbro.
"European" is a geographical classification, hence why Muslim Albania is considered European but Christian Armenia is not.
Europe only exists because it's christendom, if egypt and the nafris were christian they'd be "European", Orthodox Ethiopia was infinitely more "Europe" than pagan scandinavia, catholic congo is infinitely more "europe" than atheist France.
No.
Turkey is OVR BRVTHVRS in Asia.
Why is Cyprus Europe then
Aphrodite was born there.
Theyd be like armenia georgia etc
Turks are as European as we are.
If you don't consider Turks European, then you shouldn't consider Greeks as European either.
You think Nazi Germany wasn't an European country?
They should come in the EU once erdogan is out and spread their kebab culture to eastern European countries.
Wrong
>Turks are as European as we are.
I wouldn't go so quick on that, you've only seen the western liberal cities, if you go more inland you'd change your mind, especially kurdish areas.
no they are from somewhere else they just moved into anatolia fuck them there are christians all over the world
No why? Christianity and Islam is basically the same thing. Christianity is just better because most Christians realize at some level that it's mostly nonsense.
>then you shouldn't consider Greeks
good cuz I don't
actually a very interesting question,
and yes, actually, it was a big departure from the Christian culture that came before and after...
You know that the term was used by geographers centuries before Christ, right?
well, Anatolia was "Asia minor", the larger definition aka "anything that isn't Europe is asia" came later.
WHITE AND EUROPEAN WHITE AND EUROPEAN
Geopolitically and historically, Turkey only makes sense if understood as a European power.
Yes I would.
If they spoke Greek instead of Turkish. I consider Albania and Bosnia European.
i will become hristiyan for a gf
Ptolemy and the likes had the notions of Europe, Asia and Africa well established, it just happened that eventually Europe and Christendom came to pretty much coincide, but a Medieval scholar wouldn't have considered the kingdom of Prester John in Africa European nor a merchant on the silk road would have considered the Nestorians of Central Asia Europeans either.
>Oh no no no no LAUGH
"White" Europeans barely consider Iberians and Sicilians as Europeans when they want to shitpost so I doubt it. Religion is less important than skin and eye color.
yeah and the mediterranean was always the same and very close to eachother while you despised pale celtic and germanic barbarians in europe only thru christianity and islam blocking off the med the brown latins and greeks had to get on with their pastier "fellow" christians and only from that did Europe and Europeans get any meaning beyond a vague geography, without islam the med would still be a united brown brotherhood
They are white than you pvt gomez.
Yes. We already do for Cyprus, Greenland, Malta and Armenia. Turkey at least has part of it that is indisputably geographically in Europe.
How would anatolia not be considered "European" when it literally was the center of the european world arguably even before the western Roman collapse until 1650s after the ottomans started stagnating?
>you've only seen the western liberal cities
That's where the real Turkey is. The rest is irrelevant backwater.
Being the center of the Mediterranean world =/= being the center of the European world, Mehmed.
Funny enough Turkey was seen as an European power even after the loss of most territories until ww1. You know `sick man of europe` not `asia`.
Lol, do you honestly consider the HRE and all those larpers in any way relevant as in the "center of european civilization"? Damn, Italians really have gone full circle.
Greeks are 20-40% European depending on the area especially in Macedonia and Thrace from either both indo European or slavic mixture.
Turks are like 50% anatolian Greek 50% turkmen(Mongol persian)
>Turkey is in Council of Europe
>Turkey was negotiating EU membership
They're already European. They can get rid of Erdogan, fix the issue with the Lira and attempt to restart EU negotiations. And if people are becoming more conservative Erdogan or whoever replaces him should restore the monarchy and become the Muslim superpower they once were. Also please eradicate radical Islam.