I think Putin is kind of right

America uses its political leverage to force its culture upon other countries. This can be shown by the fact that so many of our allies are Americanized to a huge degree. Modern American culture is all about consumerism, woke shit, and hedonism. All things that ultimately leave humans to be unfulfilled as they are opposed to human nature. Russia had to take decisive action to prevent this process of Americanization from continuing to spread East through the political power America would gain from new members joining NATO. Do people in your country agree?

Also jannie don't be faggot and delete this. This 100% counts as international discussion.

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Putin's motive is not that.

But this is true, anything American soft power touches is corrupted and made worse.

I mean i suggest after this ukrain stuff ends, NATO stops doing it's shit, you remove missiles from Europe, we in exchange don't deploy them in the Carribbean and you're free to keep playing with your globohomo utopia.
Just don't touch the rest of the world, stay within your borders and that's all.

Obviously there are more important motivations, but in his speech he did mention how the West is trying to replace cultures with pseudo-values.

Nah nigga, we're sending you back to the stone age.

you are a retard
ukies are not americanized, they are antisemitic, some highly nationalist but above all else they want to have their own country

putler is mad this is the case and he wants to have a puppet governmentment just like before 2014
no putler is not kind of right, you are either an imbecile or a troll

I wish this were possible, but I fear that the system that we have created here inherently requires expansion, it will always desire to push its ways onto the rest of the world for either economic benefit or to "civilize" countries that are not woke/liberal.

that's only possible with your propaganda, you can't outdo centuries of progress like that lol.
You can lie to yourself that you are in control of the situation but you are not.

Mental image of Russian shitty ass navy trying to get nuclear missiles to Caribbean country is fucking hilarious

Russian youth are probably much more Americanized than Ukrainian youth are. Unironically.

Well in which case we will be a counterweight for this. You know how in Mass Effect there's citadel space and Terminus Systems?
We are the Terminus Systems. The rest of the world outside this "civilization".

Ukraine wasn't Americanized YET. At some point most of our allies rejected the woke bullshit we shoved down their throat, but eventually it was able to leak into the mainstream and infect institutions. I can promise you that if Ukraine became tied to America politically that they would have to start adopting the social policies that we do here.

Nah mate, we're ending Russia.

People snap out of it when they turn 30 or so. The goal of globohomo is to keep people forever young mentally and act like naive children.

>muh libtards
>muh consumerism
>muh american culture
none of those things are the reason you're depressed. stop blaming the rest of the world for your problems
t. actually lived in Russia and know many people who are miserable there as well.

You and China are a counterweight, but I wonder if you'll be able to hold out.

I'm not depressed. I just dislike modern American culture, and I see how it spreads across the globe and causes problems and unhappiness. I'm sure Russians are miserable, but it is for economic reasons, largely due to our sanctions.

India too.
We got nukes which means "civilization" won't be able to expand past our sphere of influence.
EIther way. You will try to re-colonize africa. THat's already obvious. It's the only safe direction for you now.

We never really colonized Africa. There was Liberia but that was more complicated.

>We
Motherfucker you can't even defend yourselves against local moors

Black Lives Matter is NOT a coincidence.
It was a way to creat image of a state that cares about black people. So that colonization of africa goes smoother.

>this flag
rent free

BLM was 100% astroturfed, but it was more to help the Democrats win the elections than any long term scheme I think. Most of the BLM money just goes straight to the Democratic party's political machine.

I still think my analysis is correct. Now anyway it's up to you whether you support this expansion of the globohomo or not.
If not - you are welcome anywhere outside the west, i can guarantee that.

>Russia had to take decisive action to prevent this process of Americanization from continuing to spread East
Russia couldn't give less of a shit about Americanisation of eastern Europe.
The motive for this invasion is Crimea.
NATO said Ukraine was welcome in the Alliance and this is what scared the Russian government. If Ukraine joins NATO, the Ukrainian army will be sent to recover LNR and DNR (which Russia doesn't give a crap about) and Crimea (which Russia views as an integral part of its state).
A Ukrainian attack on Crimea would be regarded by NATO as a legal move to reassert sovereignty on its own land. However, Russia would regard it as an invasion of Russian territory by a NATO member.
Which would inevitably lead to total war between NATO and Russia. Which would go nuclear fast.
Russia attacked Ukraine because all politicians made it obvious that Ukraine would join NATO sooner or later. Putin and cronies saw this as their very last chance to bully Ukraine into neutrality and avoid a global nuclear war.
Still, there is no justification for the invasion, it is an imperialistic war of aggression, the Russian government is the bad guy here, nobody but Russian hawks greenlights this unjustified attack, and the Russian army must fuck off back home.

You are right about america but russia is also a degenerate hedonistic dump ruled by the jews and rich. Putins reasons for the invasion is not altruistic

What I find interesting is that both Any Forums and /leftypol/ are supporting Russia, is this the first time they've agreed on something?

it's obviously pragmatic and pragmatism is a good thing when it comes to geopolitics.

kek a bunch of samefags.