Why do American cartoons with shitty, over-simplified art and animation still cost so much to produce?

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Powerpuff Girls still looked great and its artstyle was anything but shitty or over-simplified. If you genuinely think the PPG's style is over-simplified, you're a retard.

No. See

Oversimplified compared to what? Certainly when compared to anime, which is presumably what OP was doing.

Western cartoons fucks on individuality and do look really different from one another, so the production process is much more in depth and you need to actually work on things.

Most anime was and will always be kinda of a clone from one another, so the production team can be a lot cheaper, reuse poses, assets and that shit without needing to go that far, it does get cheaper and despite "looking good" a lot of animes are just flat shots of mouths opening and closing, save for a few action scene, compared with cartoons that are actually animated. So much that in the moment any manga that is not moe looking tries to be adapted they complete shit their pants and appeal to shitty cel shaded 3D. Like berserk or Ajin.

The Utena dude probably only saw a short sequence. The villains are where PPG character designs truly shine.

>Western cartoons fucks on individuality and do look really different from one another,
Not anymore, Big City Greens, Star vs, Amphibia, Steven Universe, Grai of the Creek, Owl House, Gravity Falls all look identical to each other

This is total nonsense. Every anime goes through the process of designing characters, setting art direction etc. They actually have a lot more to work on than the typical American show.

>reuse poses, assets and that shit without needing to go that far
They aren't 3D models. It doesn't work like that.

>a lot of animes are just flat shots of mouths opening and closing, save for a few action scene
Myth.

>So much that in the moment any manga that is not moe looking tries to be adapted they complete shit their pants and appeal to shitty cel shaded 3D. Like berserk or Ajin.
The vast majority of anime, regardless of genre, is 2D.

Kek. I know you are using the overgeneralize bait that OP deserves but your examples are awful, Ajin has a generic shounenish look just like Naruto, which isn’t 3D and Berserk has a 2D anime. Work on your bait 1/10z

Why do you care?
Its not your money.

>happier
>looks at the suicide rate
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You literally had your PM assassinated that's unthinkable anywhere else in the first world

As I understand it, people-in-suits executives don't dip into the budget. They get paid a wage. But executive producers do control how a budget is allocated, include pay to themselves. So regardless of what budget they are given, they have an incentive to push actual expenditure as low as possible. The leftover money is where shady things happen.
Japanese animators are paid per drawing, so there is a direct correlation between budgeting and the number of frames in an anime. In other words, they have somewhat standardized expectations based on budget, because they know exactly where that money goes and how much something should cost. This is where the shock at Western budgets come in. It's not translated on screen in a consistent way.

>We actually pay people living wages
Lol
Lmao
You pay storyboarders a living wage.
You don't pay animators shit because all your animation is outsourced.

Maybe because all of those cartoons were created by people who worked on Gravity Falls prior to it you nigger.

Why did /k/ do it?

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Assassinations and assassination attempts against the president are unheard of in the US.

>pussy american school shooter kills tens of innocents
>the nip shooter kills only the leader

Didn't a literal sitting US president get assassinated WHILE he was in office?

>richer

Safer maybe, but "richer" definitely not. The economy being frozen for close to three decades has lead to increasingly more people becoming impoverished in Japan.

Japan suicide rate is similar to Sweden and Germany

>looks at the suicide rate
Yeah maybe you should actually do that instead of just repeating what you're told.

>"you" "you" "your"
Getting the idea you personally know user lol

>>looks at the suicide rate
Clearly you didn't.
It's not the 90s anymore, boomer, Japan's suicide rate is lower than America's nowadays.

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>You literally had your PM assassinated that's unthinkable anywhere else in the first world

Totally wrong though. Abe stepped down as PM in 9/20 due to health problems. He wasn't PM when he got himself murdered.

Yes....in 1963

Not since JFK 60 years ago. Reagan got shot in the 80s but lives though.

American animation production has been incredibly inefficient for decades. The biggest problems are being run by non artists, the artists being separated from each other and not following the examples of people like John K
One of the dumbest things people say about cartoons. If the production value was higher in proportion to its production budget it would look better. Also animation students say this because they are insecure about the level of art they can reach
Artist on shows like Tig n seek and Craig of the creek are worth less than minimum wage. Including the skilled ones like Nick Cross because he's doing such a poor job and teaching young artists to draw Bean mouth

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>PM assassinated
Former Prime Minister, who was canvasing in a public area, killed by a weapon created from a box of scraps in a country with one of the lowest gun crimes in the entire world. Plus its only "unthinkable" anywhere else in the world (which I know you're only referring to the US because you're an idiot) because its only happened 4 times already in the US to actual standing presidents(as opposed to former ones which would be the equivalent to Abe in this regard), and countless attempts have been foiled because of government organizations both pre-emptively preventing and stopping and them from happening in real time.

A fucking wikipedia search comes up with shit that completely outs you like the faggot you are anyway. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

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Last attempt was over 40 years ago and none since have gotten remotely close
60 years ago, a world of difference. If we're going that far Japan had a sitting PM die by someone who had a giant ass sword

>Safer maybe, but "richer" definitely not
Their gdp per capita is the same as the west

>mangakas and animators actually passed out from overworking
lol

>borgenproject.org/karoshi-culture-in-animation/#:~:text=Karoshi's Effect on Animators,without pay for several months.

>It could have been a thread about what kind of cartoon would Ikuhara like
>instead it’s Japan vs Usa again
Shit thread.

>If we're going that far Japan had a sitting PM die by someone who had a giant ass sword
Mmm no, that was just a candidate.
And was, at this point, over 80 years ago.
Bro, are you really trying to sit here and pretend that the US isn't a much bigger shithole than Japan?
Come on m8, who the fuck are you fooling?

>Come on m8, who the fuck are you fooling?
Keep giving me (You)s either way. BTW i'm trans(mtf)

>still higher than Germany and just barely catching up to the US

Oh man you got me

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Most american show look like that, even most of the "non calarts" show like The Ghost and Molly Mcgee are just as similar to them as one anime is to each other

>Bro, are you really trying to sit here and pretend that the US isn't a much bigger shithole than Japan?
It isn't, I can work 8 hours and go home

That sounds good to me because I'm not a lazy manchild. Especially if you're just talking about nodding off at the drawing table
Lmao shill, that sounds horrible. Why would you want to be a mind slave to your first big production, especially a slave to Alex Hirsch.
Express your OWN unique perspective on life you were born with and it won't matter who you work with.

>one example
Meanwhile it's nearly impossible to get your show in the american industry without being either close to Disney cartoonists or a student from calarts, a shitty monopoly with a very limited number of shows

On the other hand

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>ANN
A "contributor" of that website killed himself after realizing that being a weeaboo is a worthless existence. You should follow suit, OP. You fucking faggot.
Everyone else, report him for making yet another east vs. west troll thread, which is against Global Rules 3 & 10, as well as being off topic.
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Japanbros, USAbros, let's come together and be happy we aren't going to have no energy during the winter like Europe

Where and when have I shilled? I'm just saying most of those cartoons are bound to look similar since most the people working on it have all worked together in past shows at some point. I think they all look dumb.

I didn't know that Powerpuff Girls and American animation in general do not pertain to Any Forums.