Death Battle: Low power>High power

JoJo

No, just a beam the size of their body that's as hot as a sun blowing up

Kick-Butt has a kill count of 11 or 12 and is almost Dick Grayson-tier by K-A 3
Also the metal plates in his head, beatdowns from big black dudes barely hurt him at all. Phoenix Jones mostly just deals with drunks and hobos, and has maybe tased 1 bad guy. He is very similar to the copy cat heroes that were inspired by K-A, and they're canonically not that very tough at all compared to K-A

that's also pretty bad because of Swan

>almost Dick Grayson tier by K-A 3
Isn't that where his gf gets raped by meth heads and Kick-Ass is kidnapped and given ball torture by some dago thugs?

Well apparently Supernova's can reach temperatures of 1,000,000,000 degrees Celsius according to some Nasa site shit I found.
The blast wouldn't be star level but tanking something like that with that much heat behind it would probably put you at like planet+ level at the least.

Durability?
Surely you mean heat resistance

Any fictional character where the characters use the environment consistently as something to avoid/interact with during a fight is plainly disqualified from having gorilions of anything in the stat trinity.

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if for some ungodly reason you devised a way to convert degrees to joules or tons of TNT, the temperature by itself wouldn't be too substantial. definitely not above city level, but like another user pointed out it's more heat resistance than something more straightforward such as kinetic energy

His crush gets raped in 2 and he gets CBT'd in 1. In 3, he's an ultra badass. Literally does the "from now on, none of you are safe" Batman Year One speech

Why not Kick-Ass vs Darkman?

>If Mario can throw bowser by the tail into bombs and shit
Videogames are always very wacky in terms of powerleveling, but Death Battle always use only high ends and ignore stuff like that (Unless they want to a 'Swank').
Since for Mario vs Sonic battles only games are used, comics and other stuff are out of the equation.
Bowser survived being inside a black hole, a supernova and falling from orbit. Eggman at best I think only survived his own machines exploding.
Also Bowser has the advantage that he can use magic to do very whacky stuff.

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Naruto has way more willpower.
His life was a living hell and he still broke through all of that to save the world

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With his friends

What does that matter? Luffy has his friends

user he was given God like power at birth, that is not being in a living hell. Luffy on the otherhand watched both of his brothers die in front of his face and managed to bounce back from both of those tragedies to continue his journey to become the Pirate King.

Everyone in his village rejected him and he was treated like a pariah with no friends or family all alone in his house and only able to eat ramen because no one else would let him in their stores. Luffy always had his family and his friends. He lives an easier life.

Luffy was forced to hunt man eating animals at the age of like 8 or else he would've died out in the wilderness. Ace was willing to let him bite it and Sabo didn't give a single shit until a number of months AFTER they knew him.
The kid almost got himself killed like 10-20 times just trying to impress the others, that alone shows way more will than naruto.

Well this is an argument that went nowhere

I like that it's shonenshitters arguing over who's arbitrary commercial avatar is most worthy of BTFO by fucking Hal Jordan LMFAO

He was happy, he was never alone, he was never able to feel that crushing loneliness Naruto felt. He didn’t feel sad because he’s an autist. It’s not willpower when it doesn’t take any inner strength

Metal Virus GG

Metal Mario stomps

Attempting to not die in the middle of bumfuck nowhere >>> Being sad and lonely for a few years. One of those things actually takes will.

I don't give a rats ass about Balding Jordan, though Luffy would definitely be accepted into the Green Lantern Corps.

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who woud win

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It takes a great deal of true strength to remain a good person with ideals in a world that punishes you for existing. Luffy is too stupid to feel anything. You might as well say Goku had a tough childhood.

>balding
>grey-templed CHAD
Hal literally lacks the genetic markers for balding

What willpower feats does Hal have? Wouldn't someone with a greater willpower beat him?

He beat the embodiment of all willpower in the universe (including his own)
Not likely you'll find someone with demonstrably greater willpower than that, but keep in mind that's not his top feat, either

wait so what would happen if someone destroyed the concept of willpower?

I feel that Hal has no examples of good willpower. He's never fought through legitimately impossible odds with sheer determination even when he couldn't bear it anymore. At least not as often as he should

>Someone with greater willpower
It's pretty much established that Hal has unlimited willpower, so saying "someone with greater willpower than Hal" is like saying "someone faster than Wally West"

Hal still wills
It's been done before

Who's a good opponent for her?

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He's literally willed himself back to life after dying at least twice
Idk what you think you mean by 'impossible odds', especially when Hal demonstrates nothing is impossible for him

He has crawled his way through the Arctic without his ring to fight Doctor Polaris, starving and snowblind while fending off wild animals

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who cares

lol seethe faget lmao

Luffy did something similar. Except it was carrying two people up a sheer surface in a blizzard while wearing absolutely nothing

But he had his powers right?

Why is the Hulk such a jobber? Who could he fight that he wouldn't embarrass himself against?

Is that supposed to be impressive by dc standards? That seems like something even weak anime protagonists can do via willpower.

Etrigan. Maybe?

No. The cold was that bad it was freezing him alive from the inside out. Like, frostibte all over his skin bad

>He beat the embodiment of all willpower in the universe (including his own)
no he didn't

>anemic faggot seething

Did that take away his abilities?

>it's another episode of the seething non-reader in denial

he literally didn't do that

you're literally malding

He literally did, and you're literally in denial with no argument
As usual

He likely couldn't use them in that condition.

Captain Planet

lol. by in universe mechanics that are easily exploitable if you're not fickler than a woman
no amount of character worship will make it so sadly

it's a fictional story it never happened

>still seething with no argument
Last (You), weakling

>rage quits
Kek

Yes it did but Hal never did what user said he did. typical of detective comicologists to make shit up to hype up a pissant of a character

>i-it's... LE FICTION!!!
lol rekt faget lmao

Hal Jordan is a pedophile

oh so it actually happened? my bad

>user is jealous of CHAD Jordan scoring all the space Staceys
Hal's only been with legal-aged tens, while user jacks it to blacked tranny porn and seethes over his child waifu cartoons
What a sad existence kek

>be rock lee
>be fast and strong
>fight gaara
>the edgy ginger wasn't even fighting you seriously
>still had to take your weights off, had to use the lotus, and the gates
>lost pathetically to the point gaara came off unscathed
>lost an arm and a leg
>one month later naruto defeats both neji (your rival) and gaara (the person who crippled you) on the SAME.FUCKING.DAY
why do leesisters thought that pathetic loser had a chance against sanji?

What episode of DB had the most incorrect bullshit outcome?

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Gaara vs Toph because the incel SOLOES the atlaverse with no difficulty

Someone who can't fly and also doesn't have better regen than him .
Even if his opponent is physically weaker that him, if the opponent can fly and breathe in space (and is just a bit faster than him) then he can ragdoll Hulk to the sun.
And someone with deadpool regen level will just win because Hulk doesn't have wincon.

mutt's law at work... amazing...

Bomberman vs Dig Dug no contest

All of them except Ben vs Hal and Goku vs Superman

Ben vs Hal, Wally vs Sonic and Goku vs Superman

Literally Toph vs Gaara.
It felt like they put Toph against chunin exams Gaara. Gaara may not have good physical stats but I'm sure that he is faster than anyone in Avatar just because he's a ninja.

Post war gaara trained in taijutsu and became proficient on this art. He may not be might guy tier but he's definitely above the average ninja

We will never know why this fits so well.
youtube.com/watch?v=hGATi_cmUW4

Link VS Cloud 1 was so bullshit they had to remake it, as far as I know that is the closest DB has ever come to saying "yeah guys, we got this fight wrong"

Besides them showing Tifa killing Yang in DP vs The Mask?

I always find it funny how almost no one mentions that Link vs Cloud 2 did so shit that it's only now reaching 2 million views, after a year. As a season finale.

>Tifa vs Yang
They also admited that Tifa would rekt Tifa if they do another Tifa vs Yang, but also admited that they won't do it.
>The mask vs Deadpool
For Death Battle, Toon Force >>>>> Top tier reality warping. So Deadpool is fucked (and also Saitama)

all of them

>Isn't that where his gf gets raped by meth heads and Kick-Ass is kidnapped and given ball torture by some dago thugs?
So more Jason Todd than Dick Grayson?

>Did that take away his abilities?
I mean, Dr. Doom did exactly that in the Fantastic Four movie and that let him break Reed's fingers.

Deadpool just didn't have any win condition. He could only get close, but never over the line
Raiden probably would've beat him, though

I'm saying that they showed that

To be fair Kishimoto just ended abandoning all the supporting characters, I think only Shikamaru and Gaara were lucky.

What do those things have to do with each other

Uhh, Luffy is rubber and so is Mr Fantastic? Crawling through a subzero temperature blizzard would probably cause the same effect.

Thats not how one piece works

Yeah it does? Luffy isn't that strong against blades either because rubber can be easily cut, but he's OP against blunt weapons.

Cute

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It took him several hours to realize it was cold
One Piece clearly doesn’t have rubber become brittle in cold

I forget, did he have any haki control at that point? That may be a defining factor in why he didn't freeze up and get brittle.

It makes sense, half the people who would have been interested in that fight got filtered years ago

Drum Kingdom was when he meets Chopper so no

God that mouth

Sounds about right lol

You know who are the most infuriating fanboys? 40k fanboys.
They literally, 24/7, seem to act like HERESY is somehow a reason they win. Like them accusing someone of that is an instawin

It's Space Marine fanboys, really. They're obsessed with power levels and how no one can come close to defeating their power armoured goons. The misuse of heresy bothers me, but it's not why I hate them.

40K fans can be pretty cool at times, when they're not saying the average Spehz Muhreen can solo all of street tier. The really bad wank comes from Psykers, Chaos and the Emperor himself.
If I had to point to obnoxious fanbases, Big Two aside, I'd have to say VHD gets a lot of silly wank

I'd throw the primarchs in there too. Basically anyone who isn't them doesn't really matter anymore.

Hell, picrel fucking mauls them and they say "NOOO HERESY"

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I'm just submitting something

I think Chaos and GEoM wank are on a league of their own.
"Chaos is bigger than Beyonder and would corrupt TOAA"
"GEoM blinks Galactus and the Celestial Host out of existence"
with Primarchs the worst it gets is "Angron beats the Hulk with fancy weapons" which is complete dogshit but it's still on a smaller scale. For Psykers you get "[literal who] stomps Strange and Fate"

It's just that there were/are really shitty writters in Marvel and DC who don't know shit about what the characters they're working with can and can't do, and simply do stuff because 'it looks/sounds cool', they probably don't/didn't charge much.
I have a hunch that if they do this battle and Bowser wins, it will end in stomping or vore...
Death Battle lost Final Fantasy fandom forever when Tifa died against fucking Yang in a shill episode.

How and why

elaborate please

I know but what’s their reasoning

considering the odd relationship between the two is weird they haven't made a death battle out of them. Pattrick wins btw

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Dig-Dug vs Bomberman

Purple prose written by in-universe schizophrenics going on shroom trips in the Warp talking about dimensions and universes. For Chaos corrupting the likes of TOAA, they use NLF's, plain and simple. For the God-Emperor, they go off hype with not even a statement to back it up. 40K fans can be... solipsists, in that they think their setting is the only one with grossly elevated power levels, when in the great scheme of things it's really not that strong; they go blindly into GEoM vs Beyonder threads already assuming the Emperor wins without knowing anything about the Beyonder.
Angron has to really work for it to lift hundreds of tons, and he's one of the stronger Primarchs, as an example of more or less where the setting's high tiers hover

Toons always win simply due to toon force being OP as shit.

>For Death Battle, Toon Force >>>>> Top tier reality warping
yes and that's why when the have a Toon Force character win it's always because they have higher stats

For psykers, isn't it just "Ahzek Ahriman goes back in time and kills X when they're a baby in their crib?" He seems to be the only psyker that can fuck people over with time travel, aside from Orikan, but he's not a psyker. 40K psykers really aren't that strong outside of their setting.

That and the toon force feats can be actually being measured as the spongeverse is similar to our own

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all toons are below Batkek

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shitty character that not even otto likes

now I like him even more

Dr Doom boytoy

not that user but i rememver reading about that. did he ever actually use it to retroactively de spawn someone like that? i only remember warp time fuckery where someone who wasn't his apprentice at the time but later would become his apprentice, was inexplicably his apprentice in the present

I'm personally not sure it was ever described in the books, only made known that he can do shit like that but is too busy with his autism to care.

I dunno man, toon force is fucked. When a character runs along the concepts of toon force they can go into a woodchipper, come out the other side completely dismembered and pull the pieces back together. Hell, toons have been known to be able to reconstitute themselves from nothing more than a pile of ash (Marvin the Martian / Daffy).

Please batman sama, take on doom so that gil can fight yukari.
Btw someone mentioned the x men winning streak. I would laugh if they feed ino yamanaka to xavier for shit and giggles

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How long does the beam last? That's an important variable.

Also if ya'll are interested in toon force at work. There was a crossover comic where the Joker actually got hold of the Mask. There's also Mister Mxyzptlk who's powers can seem very toon force like at times but he's a higher dimensional being entirely. joker took his powers at one point and gained a lot of toon force-esque feats.

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An attosecond

Yes, the only ones who can match a toon are another toons and that would be end in a perma tie.
That was the reason why The Mask won over Deadpool even with the 'continuity gem'.
It would be funny if they fed a DC top tier to a toon since they already did it with Marvel and Anime
Is Mxy still a toon force character?
I thought that DC downgraded him just to being a batshit insane reality warper.

Bugs Bunny is going kill the pedophile better his fans liked or not

I want a zombie vs zombie episode, who should he fight?

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Jason because he needs an actual opponent instead of that weak and pathetic autistic manchild

Plants vs zombies?

That user meant hero zombie

Based mario fag
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Imagine defending Death Battle for free

Gaara literally stopped Madara mid air using nothing but small specks of sand that he injected inside his blood vessels.

Not only Toph isn't Madara, she would also have no defense against this

Gaara's gourd sand is special, it has a form of chakra of it's own and naturally moves faster and is stronger than any sand Gaara can make. I doubt Toph would be able to earthbend this particular sand and it would probably be the deciding factor of the fight. Toph hasn't met something she can't bend, but she's never tried to bend anything with chakra/life energy before either. Just iron particles in stone.

Wait
Do DCfags seriously think that their capeshit verse is the most powerful verse in all fiction?

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Is there any song character who could even defeat Zargothrax?
>Rules over a multiverse
>Omnipotent

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Can he beat Kirby?

Is there even any Gamerafag or is just Godzilla faggots coping because they know how hard Ultraman would mog even a composite Godzilla?

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Kirby dies to speed running Mario

the Nostalgia Critic and AVGN (with prep)

Someone give this vicious cold blooded predator a worthy matchup

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Gaara was unable to kill sakura. Very pathetically weak if you asked me.

Only otto and their disciples

Sakura would solo One Pieces

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Amongus is universal

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>sakura would get one shotted by nami from one piece
FIFY

Kneel DC niggers

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>AVGN exist in reality and is alive
STOMP!!! JAMES IS GONNA RIP YOUR COMICS, SPIT ON YOUR MANGA, SMASH YOUR MOVIES, DELETE YOUR FAN WIKIS AND SHIT ON YOUR GAMES!
It's too bad he has no time

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Once I get out of my weekend's part time job I'll explain you why this isn't true

The Gaara, Tifa, Bayonetta, and Bowser matches happening so close to each other, made me don't trust Death Battle anymore and start skipping episodes. Hearing about Scout vs. Tracer went down, just reinforced my resolution.

these group of episodes I mentioned and the recent ones from season 8 onwards, ruined by Swank

Yes.

How hot is it exactly, and how long is the beam on?

If all there was to a nuke was heat, no one would ever worry about htem.

This followed closely by Gaara vs Toph.

>Otto (grown ass man) is really arguing about Naruto and Sonic and whatever the fuck at 4 AM
I know this is hypocritical for me to say but I find that really funny