What went so fucking wrong, man?

>Padme and Anakin is still the most cringe romance in media by far.

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The overall story is all Disney feige/Alonzo

The rest of it was taika partially throwing a bitch fit because he's litteralky a knee bending slave and desperately wanted to tell a story.

This is the second MCU movie in a row with negative reviews and negative word of mouth. I get that people here desperately want the negative reception of MoM to be because of American Sanchez, and the negative reaction to this movie to be because of Girl Thor, but outside of comic fan circles that were always complaining about these characters being adapted, I'm just not seeing people claiming these things as the reasons they disliked the movies, or the reasons they decided not to go see them.

Try to adapt the God butcher arc
>Gorr is so stupid that he actually painted his evil plan on a cave
>Gorr kills like one god on screen and two-ish (why was Sif even there) off screen
>cram Eternity in the movie but rather then have it be Gorr nihilistic quest to kill the top god let instead make him a literal McGuffin that makes no sense if you think about for a second as to why Eternity is a genie
>Villain can't be villains anymore so a weird redemption
>Entire storyline about how Gorr is somewhat right and the movie show how right he is but never address or even mention a counter point
>Thinking that Jane and Thor even had interesting relationship to begin with
>Plot convinces galore
>Weird pandering that insulting show marvel constant out of touch is with it audience (really Gay Krog???)
>Krog is dead weight and painfully un-funny that some people cheer when zeus shot him
>Guardian just there for 3 minute and basically there so the ads can get more audience
>Painful un-funny bits that rehash over and over
>the necrosword is just something that came out of nowhere despite being so powerful to kill a god
>Advertise a 80s-esq adventure but it not in the movie
>Thor once more is a joke who can't do jackshit

Rather then adapt a rather epic and interesting movie about thors facing his biggest threat who throwing all this somewhat true shit about gods being a cancer that must be whipe out and thor & Jane question on what they're doing is right and there place as heroes and lover depite one being mortal or a god devolve into by the number MCU borefest that care more about running gags and comedy skits then anything else

it never took itself serious so the sudiance never to it self serious to actually invest their enjoyment in it

>I get that people here desperately want the negative reception of MoM to be because of American Sanchez
Man, I'm very very very conflicted on MoM. I was not a big fan of America Shavez, but the relationship with Strange did grow on me by the end. It did give us a moment where our Strange differentiates himself from every other other variation of him, making him truly a hero. And man, I love Sam Raimi and I geeked so hard that he got to do some horror stuff in a superhero movie of all things. While the confrontation with nati strategically was absolutely retarded... Boy did I love the trademark Raimi practical effects and you know he pushed the very limit of what they'd allow him to do. Plus Bruce Campbell, you can't not love Bruce. If you don't you're a heathen that deserves to be thrown in the pit.

>Lost literally everything
>is just a bumbling goofball comedic relief
for fucks sake the first 2 movies werent that bad well the second one was bland but Christ I just hate this version of Thor

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I just want to know why Gorr is able to hold Stormbreaker ????

I subscribe to HiTop's theory that this movie is just Taika Waiti cashing a fat check from Disney while simultaneously shitting on everything the MCU represents.

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Mom sucked ass america Chavez was fine the movie just sucked ass it shouldn't have had wanda in it at all they ruined her character by not using mephisto

also the costume change like 4 times and don't even keep the good one

Compare infinity war Thor with ragnarock and thunder and you can tell takia is the problem. Why he fuck so you think korg had to do a speech 4 times throughout the movie instead of showing you.

A lot more of the criticism of MoM does seem to be what it did to Wanda, or how unfriendly it is to MCU casuals. While Any Forums tends to be divided between people who are for or against villain Wanda, and more anons blaming the movie's huge second week drop on Chavez and the movie not being 2 hours of cameos with occasional appearances by Doctor Strange.

I'm not saying that's what happened here but people in marketing know what people say and what people do are 2 different things. People won't say they won't see a film because of a specific race or sex but they know if happens. The big reason for the woke push is to shame people into buying things they don't really want or better yet, convince them buying it is virtuous.

>Mom sucked ass
Your mom sounds like a keeper.

Same + even your average joe probably has some is the issues that most critics have. My father is probably the most average man out there, and even he felt that the movie was kinda disjointed and too try hard with its comedy.

Should have given the Hammer to Darcy, just saying. Portman has no respect for the audience which is what I find enfuriating about her attitude regarding Thor 2.

Taika Waititi is a shit director.

>Should have given the Hammer to Dar
...I.. I dunno, that actually does sounds way more interesting than Portman. Sassy goth mommy Thor when?

People generally like Kat Dennings in everything, don’t know why they didn’t even try that.

Normies loved the jokes in Ragnarok and it became popular to dunk on those who didn’t. Taika is the industry’s pet funnyman right now, so he was given license to do whatever for the post Endgame Thor, and that meant giving the market more of what “worked” the first time. Problem is the choice to adapt God Butcher and She-Thor didn’t pair well with comedy, and it made fans feel like Taika was intentionally tweaking their noses the whole runtime.

I promise you Any Forums would be complaining 10 times harder about Darcy getting the hammer than Portman. Way she’s played in the movies, I could see Taika styling her as an actual WOO GIRL POWER character when she gets her power trip.

Superhero movie.

Probably depends on what they give her to wear. If they actually let her show off the big booba for once, half of Any Forums wouldn't care how obnoxious the girl power got.

I rest my case. Look at how Darcy has dressed throughout all her appearances in the MCU, hell look at how MOST MCU characters-men and women alike-have had their costumes toned the fuck down, and tell me with a straight face they would’ve given her something like Comics Valkyrie’s leotard.

Tbh it would be pretty funny to see how far they are willing to go to hide her massive honkers.

>Tbh it would be pretty funny to see how far they are willing to go to hide her massive honkers.
#FreeDarcy'sHonkers

>Bruce lends Darcy the Hulkbuster

Imagine a hulkbuster handjob from Darcy, omfg.

>sexually objectifying and humiliating men is le good
Feminist trash got what was coming

Post IW mcu just feels like everyone phoning it in with slave labor vfx slapped on top to "fix" the blemishes
Nothing feels like something someone was actually proud of, so there's no way to get invested if it's existence feels like an obligation at best

Too much humor. The villain got no screentime while the runtime was otherwise padded out with incessant Marvel humor.

I don’t know, the awkward white man/asian woman romance in Eternals felt like something straight from the heart of the director.
This is NOT a compliment about Eternals.
I’m just saying, it felt like that whole movie existed to revolve around the director self-inserting to fuck a cute troubled white boi while Celestials watched.

Ah my God. Fuck, that’s hot.

Y’all are imagining Asgardian magic bullshit somehow making the Hulkbuster fit Darcy’s proportions better so she ends up with giant metal booba and thighs that clang together, aren’t you? [/spoiler]I know I am[/spoiler]. But for real, it’s Taika. I’m already surprised the Jane/Thor romance plot wasn’t the worst thing in the movie, I’m pretty positive he’d have found a way to ruin Darcy.

A couple of Disney+ projects feel honest since they deal with the IW/Endgame fallout like Hawkeye and Wandavision.

Everything else mostly feels disjointed.

Yes that but even Darcy’s voice coming from the Hulkbuster is doing it for me. Especially if she’s acting a bit dommy.

America wasn't really an issue in MoM. She was just a walking macguffin without much personality and the actress was frankly not that great at emoting. You could replace her with an inanimate magic gem of interplanar travel and it really wouldn't hurt the movie that much. I realize that sounds like a harsh criticism, but it's mostly just a bland note and the movie has much, much bigger issues.
Likewise with girl Thor. She really didn't add a whole lot to the movie for how much screentime she got, but she was mainly bland and there are bigger fish to fry.

Oh God Darcy, just wiggle the finger already.

I need stacked Darcy in Hulkbuster armor fanart. NOW.

>What went so fucking wrong, man?
WOKE TRASH

Yeah I'd give at least those two some credit I guess, but you're right. Overall it just all feels directionless.
The closest thing to a narrative thrust is "damn this alien tech sure is crazy" with Ms. Marvel and Shang Chi

You're stupid and your opinions are actively damaging the arguments about why this shit actually sucks.
Go away

user, literally all of them are about some fallout or setup from IW/Endgame. That doesn't stop them from being almost universally garbage.

You're probably right, but anons keep wanting to make them the big problems that drove normies away, to make these movies underperforming into some kind of culture war issue, when normies hearing that Wanda and Jane die probably did more to drive them away.

Why didn't Thor just use Stormbreaker to head over to Eternity and wish Gorr away once he figured out his plan lmao

Does Thor bleed Gold?

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Thor should have been Lotr themed superman

Sif should have survived.

>introduce Asgardians of the Galaxy
>write it out as soon as possible
>introduce the Egyptian pantheon of gods
>don't include them in the Gorr the God Butcher movie

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He bleeds mead.

Are you saying the wokening hasn't even really begun? :C

As someone who enjoyed Ragnarok the issue is with the script and narrative.

Nothing really ties Gorr and Mighty Thor together in a satisfying way. Had they done something like the comics, in which Thor failed to kill Gorr when he was younger, it could have tied to some personal development. He didn't finish business with Gorr properly, and he didn't finish the relationship properly. There's something you could do there.

there's also something about how awful shit just happens that you can tie Gorr and Jane's cancer together with.

I'm mad at Love and Thunder because of all the wasted potential more so than the movie itself.

what does anything I said have anything to do with culture war posting?

>kill all asgardians
>coincidentally leave out the egyptian deities from gorr's shit

Tacucky Washitty.

Russos wisely flipped Ragnarok on its head in the first minutes of IW. Comedy exchanged for brutal drama.

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Yeah, and then they gave us funny fat Thor in Endgame

>They see a woman Thor on the poster and it drives general audiences away.
No? According to who? Any Forums aren't main audience user

See, I didn't actually hate Ragnarok as much as a lot of people seem to. I do agree that Waititi has a big problem with not letting scenes be able to breathe. I really like the comedic aspect of Thor, it had been more relatable to the flat (but more comic accurate) Thor from 1 and 2, but Waititi just doesn't seem to be able to switch the comedy off during scenes that shouldn't actually have it in them.

No, they not
Quit your bullshit

That's not a waititi problem, that's a marvel problem

Russos are degenerate fucktards and the first infinity movie was luciferian degenerate anti humanity garbage.
The second was even worse

>What went so fucking wrong
Making banks?

I thought it was pretty funny, Stormbringer getting jealous was actually good comedy. The ending and namesake of the movie is retarded though.

Should've called it Thor: GUNS AND ROSES instead, honestly

Ragnarok has its sincere moments, and I think the humor is mostly alright. It usually comes from Thor being this fish out of water, interacting with less familiar characters and settings. Just the overall scenario of Asgard's destruction and the death of old friends feels like it deserved the drama and tone present in IW.

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Yeah, the comedy was great but it really needed a tone shift once they escaped and headed towards Asgard. Normally levity like that is good to offset some really dark shit that's about to happen, but that kinda gets tarnished when you get Korg dropping punchlines during that dark moment.

How can you blame her? Thor 2 was shit, and she was probably offered a fuckton of money to do another one so fuck it. Actors got bills to pay.

>How can you blame her? Thor 2 was shit, and she was probably offered a fuckton of money to do another one so fuck it. Actors got bills to pay.
Don't start with that shit, Kat Dennings stuck around and she barely had a supporting role in Thor 2. Now people fucking love her.

I don't blame her. Like you said, they need to make money too. Nobody would say no to ridiculous amounts of money. Fuck artistic integrity. She's like what, around 40 - there are no fucking big paying acting jobs for women her age and she fucking sucks at acting so really why not take the job.

It's so fucking weird people think it's just not okay for other people to make money. So she's making dogshit movies that's not her decision that's the producer, director, and writers, if she doesn't take the money some other piece of shit is going to take the money.

I was listening to interviews with Jared Harris, who is just a fucking god of acting, and he pretty much has an incredibly grounded view of what he contributes - he gets a script and he does it. He slays it because he's a master but he has no fucking idea what the end product is and he tells numerous stories of coyly suggesting something only to be told by the directors or writers "no." As an actor he knows he has pretty much zero input besides acting and he knows very fucking well besides the acting the end product is entirely out of his hands. People ask him all this detailed shit about his roles and he's like "I cannot predict how these things turn out or how my role fits into all this, everything is shot out of order so I barely grasp the plot at times and we film so may different scenes that may or may not end up in the final cut".

I mean fuck, the public giving actors credit or blame beyond the acting is utterly delusional.

Phase 4

For a man that loves his comedy so much Taika is way better at being serious. Hela and Loki were the best part of Ragnarok while Gorr was the best part of this film.

the movie was just so bland. there was nothing amazing that happened but nothing particularly bad. it's a nothing movie with no rewatchability