>the big strong one is actually nervous inside
a bit cliche but fine, it's a kid's show
>the hot one with good hearing is upset because the guy she likes is getting married to her sister
very sexy, very spicy, lovely drama, practically a must
>the transforming boy gets no character development at all and impacts the story in no meaningful way
eh. sucks, but somebody has to have cut screentime in a cast like this.
>the little boy who took up center stage for the first arc of the movie disappears for the last two
lazy. i was expecting a thing where he was so happy with his gift that he forgot about the stuffed animal. don't develop someone this much to forget about them (see also: strong one)
>the crazy mystery uncle with a villain song is a goofy loser
he couldn't have gotten a few more serious moments? this guy abandoned his family to try and save his niece. frankly he should have been an actual villain - "magic is tearing our family apart, so i will destroy it"
>the grandma is secretly the real villain
sure but they could have gone a bit further with it. also uh, bringing back the miraculous blood magic at the end the husband died for because you hugged is a bit... like "when it's gone it's gone" would have been better.
>OH MY GOSH THE PERFECT ONE IS SECRETLY SAAAAAAAD
Fuck off. Just fuck off. Ruined the entire fucking show. I can forgive so much but not this. Years of being raised perfect in an overbearing family environment, getting everything she wants, and no she's ACTUALLY a rough and tumble tomboy sort of gal guys I swear. Makes up with her sister instantly because she never thought to try making a cactus. The show needed a villain after its two others fell through, they dropped the ball. You can really tell it was made for tweenage girls, all the guys are irrelevant goofs and all the girls are secretly goddesses inside. Fine in moderation, but it ruins the cast if done on this scale. (Not to throw shade; you should see how bad tweenage male fiction is)
The big strong one is actually nervous inside
Also the main character is a cringy ugly betty
>i was expecting a thing where he was so happy with his gift that he forgot about the stuffed animal.
Fucking this. I thought for sure that was where Antonio's role was headed. That his birthday gift would later be shown abandoned and make Mirabel feel even more left out of the family, only for this arc to come full circle with Antonio reminding his cousin of all that she's done for him as well as the whole family at large.
I'm almost certain the real-life jaguar Antonio rode into his new room was the filmmakers' way of subtlety hinting at that juxtaposition, but it still felt like a missed opportunity not to do a little more with it. I can look past this since the film had to cover such a large main cast in such limited time, but still.
You lost me at that final paragraph. Seems like you underestimate just how much pressure comes from being the eldest child, among both siblings and cousins. Isabela had been propped up as The Golden Child all her life and had to present a perfect image at every moment. Not to mention she'd be representing The Blessed Madrigal Family for the entire village. That's a lot to put on someone their entire childhood. An easy real-world equivalent would be the eldest child of an average family getting praised for all their accomplishments (which is nice), but also having to set an example and essentially being shunned if they make one minor slip-up (not nice).
You're also reading too much into how the male and female characters were handled. This main cast was PACKED, so several Madrigals were always bound to be a little sidelined in the main conflict. You seriously want to tell me Pepa and Dolores played bigger parts than Agustín? Those two were just as irrelevant as everyone else on their side of their family; you even admitted to this with Antonio getting dropped after Act 1. The premise had to stay focused on Mirabel and Abuela, so it's only natural that the surrounding relatives closest to the former would get more development.
This is some next level autism.
Any Forums peaked when we had an active Encanto discussion thread at any given moment. It just hasn't been the same since. Also Dolores is bae
>watching pixar trash
Isn't that stuff literally aimed at eight year olds?
I don't really like that the porn is all Bruno x Maribel.
I don't mind sister x sister mother x daughter stuff but I rather the man doing the fucking be faceless or some OC
Literally the most meh movie I’ve ever seen in my life. You shouldn’t have any expectations beyond a lukewarm, inoffensive experience when it comes to Disney shit though desu.
So it’s agreed Bruno banged Mirabel right
>I can look past this since the film had to cover such a large main cast in such limited time, but still.
yeah but like, then don't spend 15 minutes developing one character only to abandon them. When you have a large cast, budgeting their screentime is more important.
>Also Dolores is bae
correct
If it isn't Pepa/Julieta making love to their husband, Mariano fucking either Dolores or Isabela, or Luisa getting dommed by some faceless OC, then I don't want it. I'm happy the Bruno fans have built such a big community of their own, but the ones who ship him with Mirabel are the fucking worst.
>like half the complaints are "there's no big evil bad guy"
It's a family drama, the story doesn't require a villain
>Seems like you underestimate just how much pressure comes from being the eldest child, among both siblings and cousins. Isabela had been propped up as The Golden Child all her life and had to present a perfect image at every moment.
So why does she end up with a great personality? you don't grow up emotionally stunted and repressed by your expectations and then turn into a perfectly balanced happy clam because your sister was a little pushy one time. Even if you want to go the route where she's unhappy, it should be the kind of unhappiness where she revels in it - again, more of a villainous take.
> You seriously want to tell me Pepa and Dolores played bigger parts than Agustín?
Dolores definitely gets more screentime and characterization than him. Pepa only exists in conjunction with Dolores, he's practically a non-character.
The male female thing is just something that stands out to me because of how so many arcs got resolved, especially Isabela. They throw in a last-minute song just to redeem her and show off what a based individual she really is inside, but meanwhile they've pretty much tossed away Antonio and Bruno, who narratively deserved way more than they got. The guys don't really get satisfying arcs even when they merit them, whereas the writers scramble all over themselves to write meaningful arcs / REDEMPTION arcs for the girls even when some of them would have worked perfectly fine without them.
Can't argue with the truth.
Families have villains.
If it weren't for the magical elements, everyone would call it boring. Same for Turning Red. You'd be surprised just how many people think animation is only good for outlandish or fantastical concepts and can't make for some grounded, more character-specific stories. I hope Entergalactic shows the potential the medium has for that kinda stuff.
her and her mum are easily the two hottest girls in this movie
>the man doing the fucking be faceless
absolutely fucking disgusting
>I'm happy the Bruno fans have built such a big community of their own, but the ones who ship him with Mirabel are the fucking worst.
Why
I don't like nervous "beta" males
I like rough aggressive males that make the women submit to them
It's not like Encanto does family drama or grounded character exploration particularly well, though
Frozen came out 10 years ago, Coco was 5 years ago. In The Heights exists, if we're talking Miranda.
>So why does she end up with a great personality?
>turn into a perfectly balanced happy clam
Limited run time and I'm guessing Disney along with the filmmakers didn't want to get TOO depressing with Isabela, a side character. Plus it's not like her story's over; it's only begun. Now she's free to really explore and discover new things about herself and the untapped potential of her powers. I hope the inevitable continuation for the franchise allows room to explore where Isabela goes from here.
And Agustín definitely played a pivotal role. He was the family member who was the most aware of the trouble Mirabel was going through and even tried to keep things controlled both during the marriage proposal and during Antonio's party, all before straight-up confronting Abuela during the climax.
Not sure how you feel Bruno was "tossed away." The more villainous route you said you would've taken with the character sounds interesting, but that's just not what the writers went for. Bruno was way more of an apologist, and that shows in the fact he still longed to rejoin the family even after all those years (fake spot at the dinner table behind the walls).
Always nice to see a fellow Pepachad out in the wild.
I prefer Mirabel raping Bruno