Guillermo kino incoming

>dude 20th century infringed governments are....LE BAD!
I'm getting tired of this gimmick

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This is just a soft reboot of pan's labyrinth

GDT is Mexican

>the scene where pinochio stands in front of this thing

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>that pinocchio re-design
wait a sec...

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Classic fairy tales are grim and gritty, you manchild.

Shape of Water was admittedly a matter of taste, I liked it myself, but no one should blame Del Toro for the abomination that the Hobbit movies turned out to be. Del Toro left in large part due to how much the studio insisted on sticking its dick into the picture, and when he left they threw money at Jackson until he came back purely for the paycheck and let them do what they wanted.

What does Any Forums actually want? At this point I’m confused why some of the people in this thread even post here?

another del toro/ron perlman hellboy movie

I’m a lil disappointed, not because it’s against fascism or whatever but just because this looks like a retread of one his earlier works, pans labyrinth. Hopefully he’s self awareness enough to realize that and do something unique

>Del Toro left in large part due to how much the studio insisted on sticking its dick into the picture, and when he left they threw money at Jackson until he came back purely for the paycheck and let them do what they wanted.
If this had all been before preproduction, sure, more power to him for sticking with his guns.
But when you have thousands of people whose livelihood depends on you getting along with the higher ups, then either hash everything out beforehand or don't bother at all. The movies are shit, but Jackson made the best of the mess del Toro left behind, so everyone would actually get paid.

>Redesign
You know... Disney didn't MAKE Pinocchio, right?

What happened to Henry Selick anyway

The original is more fucked

But why though?

>But when you have thousands of people whose livelihood depends on you getting along with the higher ups, then either hash everything out beforehand or don't bother at all

This implies that it is not in the power of the studio to agree to something up front and then start dicking with you later in production (because they still control the money) which is something that happens all the time. It happened with Sam Rami on Spiderman 4, which is why we never got a Spiderman 4. Hilarious story there, actually. Worth looking up.

I just assumed that disney is involved because they love to bogart IPs. seems its not the case here, I stand corrected

>This implies that it is not in the power of the studio to agree to something up front and then start dicking with you later in production
Then he was either expecting his name would be enough to ensure his vision for the movie or went into the thing prepared to walk away and leave everyone else up shit creek.
Neither makes him look particularly good.

I'm really starting to wonder if Fascism would work, or at the very least be better than what we have now, this rotting corpse of a society where fewer people can afford to start a family, instead they just import more workers.

sure hasn't worked every time it has been tried

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I'm getting tired of altright dipshits who escaped the Any Forums retard farm whining about how triggered and oppressed they are every fucking second of the day and yet, here you are.

Well give it another decade or so and we might find out... people like you won't obviously because you'll be executed for "domestic terrorism" but the rest of us will

Arguing either for or against fascism in practice is tricky because 1 is not a pattern, statistically speaking.

And no, national socialism isn't the same thing.

I wish we had a button to press that would magically send retards like you back to go live in Poland or Germany back in the late 30s to early 40s.

I loved Hellboy 2 and was bummed by not getting the next chapter too. That was 14 years ago. Ron Perlman is in his 70s. They already rebooted it terribly. Mike Mignola has become a hack in that span of time. Del Toro has been completely burnt out from trying to pilot big studio projects that ultimately failed projects like In the Mouth of Madness, Pacific Rim 2, and his Hobbit films. He’s completely pivoted to purely original films with smaller budgets that allow him creative control.

It was time to move on a decade ago.

Fuck off. Disney being nothing but sunshine and rainbows for the last 15 years is what I'm tired of. I welcome any return back to more grimdark kids animation.

>The ending scene is Pinocchio, after having killed millions, is publicly executed by means of a woodchipper by an army of unicorns
>Pinocchio's remains fall into a bin, not too shortly before sit ablaze
>The movie finally ends with a large dance party with all the movie's good guys in the middle of a destroyed city

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still making his Key and Peele tranny film, supposed to come out this year