How come when steven redeems his villans it's cringe but when naruto does it's cool?

how come when steven redeems his villans it's cringe but when naruto does it's cool?

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A guy trying to bring is rival and friend back is far more compelling than some kid going," hey maybe being bad isn't cool."

they are both cringe

Since fucking when is Naruto cool

Unironically this.

Early 2000s, maybe even mid, but when the 2010s came along, oh boy people started to think he was...cringe.

See pic related on how cringe Naruto can get, I miss those days though, lots of funny material to laugh at.

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What? People have complained about talk-no-jutsu since the beginning of time.

Even most rabid Narutofags called bullshit on Sasuke getting away with a "Well yeah... sorry" and Orochimaru and Kabuto walking away scott free.

>when naruto does it's cool

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Stop listening to propaganda started by massive faggots like Lily Peet. Steven having the talk no jutsu was a meme the fans invented because back then we all loved comparing shit to anime. In reality he fails multiple times to bring gems on his side, and the ones he does were either not evil to begin with or take a long, LONG time and a lot of grief to come around. You can argue that the Diamonds themselves were rushed, and lots of people certainly think that (or think that they shouldn't be redeemeed at all) but that happened more because he leveraged his family relations than him being a master speech giver. It's even show the peace they made wasn't perfect, the hierarchy is still intact and many gems still willfully choose their old caste's job and he decides to give up and fuck off forever to live his own life in the end.

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>but when naruto does it's cool
he is not, that's why he is a cuck

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Because Naruto would actually beat the shit out of people. Most people shit on how it is executed, but the intention was that he wanted peace, and he used both diplomacy and strenght to do it like a good leader would. But the truth is that the audience didn't care about the themes so it just turned to garbage the further you go in the story.

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I’ll give Steven this, he didn’t call Aquamarine cool for trying to Murder Greg

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Naruto understands that you can't just talk to someone to change their entire worldview and beliefs, you have to beat the shit out of them first to rattle it, then you lay on the friendship talk to fully convert them.
Steven basically gets by easily with his talk no jutsu not because he actively challenges the Diamonds beliefs or anything, but simply because he's their nephew and they want to keep a relationship with their dead sister's son.

>naruto does it's cool?
Weird bait thread.

Steven's redemption is just him justifying the evil they've done

Naruto(not the one that looks like a dyke from boruto)does it...for the most part...to tell them for all of the evil they've done if there is good in them they can redeem themselves.
But if not he'll straight up murder a bitch.

naurto fucking jobbed to a door
he's more cringe than steven ever was and actually literally relied entirely on his magic fox sugar daddy to be any use at all

Naruto has never killed anyone as far as I can tell aside from maybe a grunt.
Personally he’s kind of a pussy compared to like Luffy. Now that’s who Steven should emulate if anything

Don't forget all the Linkin Park AMVs

Naruto took like 300 episodes and two major battles plus losing his arm before Sasuke went "You know maybe I'm being kind of an asshole about the whole thing"

White Diamond gave up because Sugar heard "I'm a kid, what's your excuse" outside of a kindergarten and thought it was the sickest burn hard enough to make brain control Hitler fold.

Killed the guy who claimed he fought the first hokage. What's his face.

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Some things never change

>Naruto has never killed anyone as far as I can tell aside from maybe a grunt.
In fairness that's because of bullshit, he hit Kakuzu with an exploding shuriken ball of death that also was supposed to eternally fuck up your chakra and instant kill you that was and literally left a giant crater.

That he didn't actually kill him is just story contrivance, there's no denying he went to make that guy dead.

Who the fuck has Luffy killed?

Movie guy
Though in One Piece it’s apparently worse to have your dreams destroyed

A shitload of people he pushed into the boiling blood in Impel Down

If you're asking why he hasn't killed more it's because the number of people who die outside of flashbacks for the whole damn universe could probably be counted on fingers and toes

Maybe it's because Naruto can be aggressive to match his aggressive adversaries.

The passive Steven could have work if his adversaries didn't had such heinous crimes under their belts.

He talked Pain into suicide and in a few episodes he made Obito attempt suicide.

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>A guy trying to bring is rival and friend back is far more compelling
the guy it's a world class criminal, everyone on that show it's fucking idiotic

>Movie guy
Naruto also has a bunch of non canon kills

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