>sending Doomsday, a mindless killing machine, to the Phantom Zone so he can't harm anyone is bad because... it just is okay?!
What the fuck was Batman's problem here?
Sending Doomsday, a mindless killing machine, to the Phantom Zone so he can't harm anyone is bad because...
Landon Gonzalez
Xavier Thompson
Well Batman knows a thing or two about bad guys escaping prisons.
Parker Jackson
It was a canceled plot point where batman was going to defect to wallers side. But everybody realized that dumb as hell.
Samuel Collins
They sent him to the Phantom Zone? I thought Justice Lord Supes melted his brain.
John Sanders
Why did they change Bruce's design, getting rid of the blue eyes and bringing them back to solid black, like they were in the original run of BTAS?
Dominic Wilson
That whole story arc had so much forced drama.
>Nooo, superheroes can't be proactive and deal with dangerous threats because...well freedom of speech and such.
>The government feels unsafe because of you people who routinely save the world while we twiddle our thumbs
>There is nothing weird or threatening about known supervillain, Lex Luthor, suddenly running for president you bigot!
Jaxon Mitchell
Batman and Green Arrow were understandably concerned about what the Justice League was becoming, especially after seeing the Justice Lords reality. It's the little decisions that have the biggest impact, they chip away at people making them easier to make which can lead to ethical debates. While Doomsday is in fact an unstoppable killing machine that is difficult to contain, Batman was startled by the fact that they had a private jury meeting and sentenced him to an eternal hell Superman previously was disgusted with. That first step to use The Phantom Zone Projector opens the door to the league asking "Hey, why not keep dumping people into this cosmic junkyard?".
You're oversimplifying this stuff to sound smart. The government had every right to fear the Justice League based on their actions and the concept itself. Bruce and Oliver even admit this
Gavin Davis
those first 2 points are pretty realistic. A large chunk of people always get pissed off when somebody starts rocking the boat and changing shit no matter the intentions or even the results. That goes double for governments
Camden Campbell
it's doomsday. it's kind of his thing to get better from shit like that
Michael Wilson
If they wanted to raise the question about it, they probably should have had someone else besides Doomsday get kicked to the Phantom Zone.
I mean, it’s fucking Doomsday, the mindless murder machine that will never stop and never die. If Bruce had another idea to contain him permanently, then by all means, let’s hear it.
Ryder Sanchez
Doomsday is the extreme case that allowed this trial/sentencing to happen. The point being that they decided to do it in the first place, that first step that scares Batman into thinking "Okay, will we ever do this again, and will the decision be easier now that we ripped off the band-aid with the first trial?". The implications are still there, and very real.
Ian Gutierrez
They had an orbital laser cannon with the force of a nuclear bomb. But it's okay because the League promised they'd almost never use it, and the US government had no idea it existed until they did use it that one time
Even Cadmus didn't have a real defense against that except getting the hell out of dodge
Daniel Martinez
that orbital laser cannon would have saved countless lives against the martians and thanagarians. Being hacked by one of the 3 smartest people in the world who also duped the dumbass government is just something you can't prepared for
Jace Powell
You forget.
The technological security embedded within the tower is so poor, someone was able to fire it remotely from Earth.
Jeremiah Parker
>The technological security embedded within the tower is so poor, someone was able to fire it remotely from Earth.
You make it sound like some kid hacked it cause he was bored one night. Fucking Lex Luthor and Waller devoted considerable time and resources into doing it. Plus, Brainiac probably did most of the heavy lifting
Zachary White
So Batman’s being overly paranoid, as usual?
Doomsday is an extreme case, that’s why the rest of the League decided it would be safer for everyone else to lock him up in the Phantom Zone. And keep in mind that Batman had no qualms locking Chronos up in a time loop for eternity.
>I trapped an insane inventor in a time loop to keep him from ever bothering us again lmao
>wtf noooo Superman you can’t just lock Doomsday up in another dimension! You’ll become a fascist if you do!!!
Luke Moore
Yeah what a lot of armchair critic anons fail to realize is that conceptually the JLA is a terrifying organization that would definitely spark debate.
>A collection of the world's most powerful people with powers, magic, etc have organized under one roof
>They have technology and assets far exceeding the collective world governments, now laughably outgunned
>They do not answer to any sort of recognized authority, no regulation or oversight. They decide what is and isn't acceptable or ethical, occasionally work with authorities when a crisis is over.
>On occasion these people are either mind controlled, impersonated, go rogue, or some other incident that puts them at fault
So the government, understandably, had every right to start CADMUS out of a very real fear they all had. Fucking Batman even recognizes the danger the JLA has, which was the entire reason why he alone created contingencies for everyone
Jeremiah Miller
True
JL/JLU felt like comedies on rewatch because of the poor writing
Leo Morales
Batman is paranoid, as is Question, but neither are wrong in this example. The possibility exists and is very real whether you like it or not. Everyone hopes for the best scenario, but the smart prepare for the worst. Some of the most dangerous and evil men on the planet did what they did with "good intentions". There is nothing more dangerous than a villain thinking he is the hero of his own story. Examples include Black Adam and Sinestro
Camden Thompson
Doomsday is a violent illegal alien. I'm fine with him being deported.
Jace Diaz
Doomsday can't be killed the same way twice, he adapts after every death. That's why our supes couldn't melt his brain like the other supes did
John Hughes
>Arrow on right side of bow
Kino
Brayden Jackson
Doomsday wasn't mindless
Ryder Jenkins
It’s genuinely not if you knew shit about them
Most of the time it’s very forced
Jackson Johnson
Their solution was fairly weak too
>Ultimen and Sociopath Supergirl
Would Galatea have any chance against Superman?
Evan Lee
Ok, now explain how what Batman did to Chronos is any better
Jackson Ortiz
they had the right to start something like cadmus. The cloning, genetics stealing, pointless and stupid antagonism towards the JL, etc. is where they fucked up. All while they know somebody sketchy as fuck like Luthor is running around in the background. If they put that effort into actually making the world better then there wouldn't need to be a JL to begin with
Jayden Garcia
They did have a massive army of the Ultimen, to be fair.