Fake ass Fantastic Four or Fake ass X-Men?

Fake ass Fantastic Four or Fake ass X-Men?

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Doom Patrol was DC's answer to Fantastic Four. The X-Men debuted afterwards, and so close to it that any similarities were just pure coincidence.

Fantastic fakeasses in a good way.

What does that make Kirby's Challengers of the Unknown?

Yeah, you can definitely see how Ben Grimm influenced Cliff's personality in the early DP. And take away the wheelchair-bound leader, the other similarities with X-Men kinda fall apart. Look at the difference in time period between the debuts of both Brotherhoods.

A partial inspiration for the Fantastic Four

Prototype Fantastic Four.

Sausage party Fantastic Four

>The X-Men debuted afterwards, and so close to it that any similarities were just pure coincidence.
Stan Lee Cope

Prototype Fantastic Four and successors to the Sky Masters of the Space Force

Though the Sky Masters weren't superheroes, but were an early Kirby exploration team.
no u. AAF #14 has a prototype X-Men story that sets up familiar but slightly different concepts based on pulp sci-fi.
>mutants
>two are telepathic
>MC can fly
>MC is hounded out of his hometown and invited to a safe haven for mutants
The creator of Doom Patrol worked at Marvel shortly before moving to DC and having DP published
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Apart from the leader being in a wheelchair, I never understood how doom patrol was similar to X-men.

because it's a group of freaks/outcasts.

Fake ass GLA.

I've seen people force comparisons like Cyclops concealing his eye beams to Negative Man concealing his radiation behind bandages, or Beast supposedly ripping off Beast Boy (Even though Beast pre-dated Beast Boy) or them both supposedly being outcasts (something that very rarely ever came up in X-Men, despite later revisionism). Really, the only other comparison that kinda works is them both having enemies called The Brotherhood, but given that neither debuted with that team in place, even that falls apart.

I wanna see a Death Battle with Niles Caulder vs Charles Xavier

>(something that very rarely ever came up in X-Men, despite later revisionism)
It's one of the first things brought up in issue 1 once Xavier starts expositing.

One panel, and then the only other instances are stories where they're framed, display their powers out of costume or the first Sentinel story. Otherwise, they were consistently shown to be admired by the public and swamped by fans.

both

Since X-men is a retooling of "The man in the sky" of AAF 14.
Does that mean that Dikto indirectly took part to the X-men creation ?

Hi estate of Stan Lee. Doom Patrol was first and this will always be the case.

The only thing that DP will ever be first at, is at sucking

Yes. Albeit, there were numerous storytimes that presented proto X-Men stories from 50s.

>being outcasts (something that very rarely ever came up in X-Men, despite later revisionism
and never really came up in DP

Robotman - The Thing
Negative Man - Human Torch
Elasti-Girl - Mix of Reed and Sue

Doom Patrol did not predate AAF 14, trannoid. It did rip of FF tho