How the fuck is this character even remotely Baron Zemo...

Is that from the weird deadpool comic?

>strategic supergenius motivated by daddy issues who attacks the Avengers

The only option to make it a straight adaptation would be to make him a neo-Nazi, and fuck that.

Did you honestly write that out and think that was a good description of either versions of the characters we were talking about? Why do people like you always use such retarded minimizations of characters?

It's definitely Helmut. If you're mad the character isn't as deep and multilayered as the Thunderbolts version of Helmut, you'll have to wait for the Thunderbolts storyline to play out for him to get it. Duh.

It's literally in no fashion Helmut, who is defined by his imperious leadership and dominating personality. His entire thing is being a promethean man who makes himself the leader of evil gods and monsters and assembles them into a team to do his bidding. When did he ever once show himself to be a man who has extreme high level team building skills and can dominate beings far more powerful than him through the sheer force of will? Being the leader of the Masters of Evil didn't even remotely come into play

Just admit that you'd eat any shit interpretation of any character that has the name slapped on it

They shit the bed in general when it came to Cap’s villains, minus Skull.

They did Winter Soldier almost perfectly

>Crossbones
>Zola
>Zemo
>Baron Strucker
>Flag Smasher (who became STOP CALLING THEM TERRORISTS)
>Third Cap movie had to be hero versus hero garbage instead of Cap being heroic and fighting badguys

Zola was descent, but the rest were pretty bad yes. Crossbones was alight but he needed to be an actual Neo Nazi to be good

I haven't watched FaTWS, so your point about me consooming any MCU trash is moot.

But:
>When did he ever once show himself to be a man who has extreme high level team building skills and can dominate beings far more powerful than him through the sheer force of will?

Literally his whole point in Civil War. Although he did the exact opposite of team building, he destroyed the Avengers. That still requires manipulation and control of people who were on the cusp of cosmic importance. Without Zemo, the Avengers would've stood a chance against Thanos and probably had him beat in one movie, but because of him they were weak and got dealt a massive blow. He hasn't made a move in 6 years of continuous MCU content flooding, and yet the effects of his one move are still being felt.

Zemo can't assemble a Masters of Evil in the MCU for lots of reasons. Mostly because the MCU villains are usually generic and shit. He had to be a one-and-done villain and then grow into something else, but because he hasn't been he focal point of a story yet we haven't seen that. I'm not saying Marvel won't fuck that story up when it gets there, I'm saying there's no point in complaining about a character who has had like an hour of face time in the entire MCU and has only ever been a shady background presence or a glorified cameo.

Yeah, you just supported my point, this character is a completely different fucking entity than Baron Zemo, who's a character who's supposed to build the evil opposite team to combat the Avengers for his own imperious desires. This werid fucking obsessive weasle who wants to commit suicide and digs up dirt on the Avengers to get back on them is in no possible fashion anything close to what the character should be.

His motivation is dumb as fuck to, or you're mad they didn't stay behind to help clean up your specific area of the disaster? If they weren't there the entire fucking planet would have been destroyed by an asteroid you absolute pathetic bitch. His whole motivation was misplaced victiomhood, where Baron Zemo is the opposite of that, a man who considers himseld the master of everyone around him.

>he systematically dismantled the most powerful team in the world instead of flooding a 2-hour movie that was already too full of cameos with a hundred character introductions.

Building a team and destroying a team aren't really that different when you're talking about the character traits and actions of the guy who did it. He still manipulated and dominated a huge number of people way more powerful than him into doing his bidding and dealt a massive blow to The Avengers. You're just arguing over specifics.

It wouldn't have made sense to introduce the Masters of Evil with Zemo, not least because "evil reflection of the hero" has been done to fucking death in the MCU. We didn't need a team of them.

>His whole motivation was misplaced victiomhood

The Avengers were literally responsible for killing his entire family. He's not going to weigh the net gains of the world against his own hurt. This is "facts don't care about your feelings"-level sociopathy.

>Baron Zemo is the opposite of that, a man who considers himseld the master of everyone around him.

Zemo's superiority complex in the comics is also misplaced, and comes from him being descended from a long line of privileged dickheads with aspirations of world domination. Zemo in the movies does dominate and master people, but he does it to his enemies instead of building a team and he is motivated by grief instead of familial honour and blood purity, because those are ideas Marvel would prefer to eskew, not least because they're generic 1940's villain clichés. Same reason Mordo is also no longer a Baron.