Your white male heroes are old news...

>Your white male heroes are old news, now accept this new take with the charisma of an Internet OC who will take the mantle of your childhood hero.

Why is this trope so fucking common? What's the need to make Luke Skywalker, Peter Parker and He-Man into jobbers to push the "New Generation" who are always forgotten after a year or two?

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to push (((their))) agenda

I think you're seeing smoke and thinking there is a fire.
When you're actually just seeing fog.

I like dead best spiderman
Something new after seeing regular Spider-Man ever since the 80’s

>are always forgotten after a year or two?
Miles has been constitently pushed for 10 years at this point.
Rey still gets loads of fanfiction shipping her with Kaylo from horny tumblr girls.
And the chick from He-Man... Well, He-Man hasn't really been getting a lot of new content before the last show, and it hasn't even been a year, so it's hard to judge.

Not sure about He-Man but Luke and Peter and literally old and in need of passing the torch

>Why is this trope so fucking common?
it's not even a thing in the example you gave.
Try harder with your dumb culture war bait threads.

>my heroes have to be perfect and without flaws
I bet you scream marry sue in other threads

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Having a mentor character be old, worn-down, and not interested in being a mentor, and having to improve their own self and come to terms with their own past as they're forced to train up the next generation, has been a common character dynamic since antiquity.

Why are you bitching?
You can see a rebooted high school Peter Parker in the MCU.
You still have the other Netflix cartoon to see a young He-man as the main character.
With Luke, the actor has aged, so you can’t really do like the others. But you at least see his digitally younger self in the Mandolarian and Book of Fett.

But anyway, these properties have been out since the 60s and 70s and early 80s. So of course you’re going to see a version that grew, that’s old and cynical like it’s original audience grew into.
Because you can’t be young again user.
This is who you are now .

The only way to avoid that is having no continuity like Mickey Mouse or Spongebob.

they should've just started with the old peter. have miles seek him out to understand his new powers.

The desire for a new story to be told for ease of accessibility for the next generation, rather than an old one only your parental figures are attached to?

Classics are classics but metrics can still drop if new consumers are not created. Breaking down that barrier is all the people behind those decisions care about for easier money, you lie to yourself if you think they are in this business to tell a story, promote politics and waste ink.

Its all about money and you know it.

So basically copy A New Hope.

hey, if it works.

i like the idea of mid age crysis spiderman with not done morning beard.
i wish we had more of this spiderman stories

You know damn well the type of people who make these kinds of threads would be even more livid if you had Peter show up only to die a third of the way through. At least with Spider-verse the Peter that dies is early enough that it doesn't matter, and the Peter we get for the rest of the movie gets to go back to his own home and be a hero again after all his character development.

Look at The Force Awakens in the long term.
I think it’s better what ITSV and He-Man revelations did.

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>Why is this trope so fucking common? What's the need to make Luke Skywalker, Peter Parker and He-Man into jobbers to push the "New Generation" who are always forgotten after a year or two?

Here is the problem they are trying to solve: You have a franchise that has been around for an entire human lifetime, and interest is waning. You want to freshen things up, but you have been using this exact character for decades already and you are running out of material for them. In truth, you ran out of material for them years ago and started re-using your old notes, and that's not cutting it anymore. However, you are also an absolute limp-dicked fucking COWARD, so you refuse to make something actually new because you are afraid it won't be as successful as the dying cash cow you already have. You want to use the brand name, but you want to change up the character.

So you make a legacy character. Someone who still calls themselves Spiderman or whatever so you can latch onto the brand recognition, but a different person under the mask with supposedly new stories. A change in status quo. For this to work, you need to make the change immediately obvious and different. A new costume is a good place to start, but that's not enough. There needs to be absolute clarity that this is not the same hero as before.

In the past, they made the mistake of making the legacy characters too similar. You would be surprised at just how many people never realized that Barry Allen and Wally West are different Flashes, because you put them next to each other and they look fucking identical. The obvious, easy visual indicator is either a change of race or a change of sex, this way even ignoring costume and art style changes audiences can never get the two confused.

Especially at girl characters

Propaganda

he's a man on a mission

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Logically this all makes sense. On paper, its a reasonable business decision. Where the controversy comes in is the fact that superheroing was a white boys game for the better part of a century. So it looks and feels like a specific change AWAY from white male protagonists, as opposed to just a general change to something new. And this makes insecure white dudes, and no small number of actual racists, upset.

But if there were more black or asian or whatever heroes from the start, you wouldn't be noticing this at all. You'd have black women getting replaced with white men as part of the mixup. It only feels like an attack on white people now because they wrote *nothing but that* for entirely too damn long. They wrote themselves into a corner where to introduce new legacy character they all but had to make the next general not be so damned white.

Pete had a much better legacy character already.
Miles exists solely because of Bendis' fetish.

Or now, not be so straight….

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In Jon's case, the obvious visual indicator is that he is much younger. Kind of like Sam is to Nova. The homosexuality wasn't initially integral to the character, as evidenced by the fact that it was tacked on later as opposed to being a part of the new character push from the start.

Not fetish, business decision. Bendis has made it explicitly clear that he will always make up a new character where he can avoid using an existing one purely out of hope that they will appear in a movie someday and he will get a check out of it. Most of his new OC characters will fail, but eventually one or more of them will succeed simply because Hollywood knows they need to sprinkle in nonwhite characters to not be conspicuously casts full of white people. And, when it comes to adapting comics stuff, nonwhite characters worth using are in short supply. So Bendis just has to plant seeds for as many black or hispanic or asian OC characters as he can and its inevitable that some of them will end up on the silver screen just out of lack of competition and the necessities of the ongoing superhero movie boom.
Never blame on ideology or conspiracy what can be accurately described by greed.

MAAA, THE LESBIANS KEEP HITTING ME, MA!
MAKE THEM STOP MAAAA!!!!!

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Nani? Nobody mentioned lesbians.

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I worry the new upcoming Legion of Superheroes show will star Bendis’s OCs while the rest barely show.

It's hilarious when having a white boy be mentored by a non-white old man was pretty common for a time, as a way of introducing foreign concepts without losing the white audience. You flip that and people lose their minds.