ITT: Worst relationships in comics

And if Morrison had his way Johnny would have cucked Reed too

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It was revenge on Black Bolt for helping to hide Crystal's cheating.

KWAB

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This was a point in marvel in which basically all decisions were taken based on controversy.

Crystal cheated on Pietro (who she was married to), not Johnny.

>Getting cucked by Johnny Storm
Is this going to become a staple in Marvel?

Whatever weird self insert shit is going on in Cantwell’s Iron Man run.

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Well connected with your question
Who wrote it
Who edited it
Who was in charge at the time

This sounds like a pretty shit justification for his incest fetish

I like Grant Morrison but wtf is wrong with him? it’s like he misuderstand characters on purpose just to make them more interesting or something

Is this run also shit? When was the last good Iron Man run?

Can someone explain this meme?

>That time getting cucked caused Pietro to go crazy and kidnap Alicia, dropping her off in Yancy Street on the hope some goons would rape her because Crystal cucked him

Fraction's was the closest to "good" baring one-shots, let that sink in for a minute

The worst part of this shit is that the Black Bolt solo book and the Royals book were being released at the same time so Saladin Ahmed and Al Ewing would have been in constant communication or at least with Editorial and yet while Black Bolt was thinking about Medusa and how she was the only thing keeping him alive in prison, Medusa was fucking Gorgon in Royals.
Fuck Ewing and the incompetent Editorial that green light the stuff with Medusa/Gorgon

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There is no meme, the joke is those bios paint them as a wholesome American familly and Clarissa as the bad one despite us, the reader, knowing how fucked everything actually is

With whom? Ronan?

Some random nameless human door to door insurance sales man, I shit you not. Also apparently Vision and Wanda knew

jesus christ the fuck is wrong with marvel writters? isn’t the cheater supossed to be hated instead of praised?

Who the fuck interprets Ben as a baby?

Fuck, who the fuck thinks FF are supposed to be a nuclear family at all?

They were three friends and a brother who tagged along.

Ben was the one in love with Sue once, I think.

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It’s definitely Cantwell just writing Tony to be more like him and turning Patsy into an edgy toxic bitch who belittles him. He claimed to have read all the older issues but ignored the way Tony was willingly committing suicide via exposure when he was a homeless alcoholic so Patsy could ‘win’ an argument about who was more mentally ill she started.

I dropped it a while ago but Cantwell is one of those authors who ignores how Stark’s egotism is mostly a mask used by somebody who is chronically afraid/with an atlas complex and thinks he’s actually a raging narcissist who needs his balls regularly stomped on to keep him in line.

Just the worst waste of Cafu and Alex Ross on the art, too.

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This whole run was stupid so its none existent in my books.

He… he knows it was a different Human Torch that was with Namor in WW2 right?

Anyone involved with FF that isn't her brother had a crush on her at some point.

Storm is stuck forever in that relationship

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Women are like that. No point in being kind anymore.

Most of these things come off like they were written by unhappily married middle-aged guys living out their porno fantasies vicariously through their writings.

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99.99% of relationships in comics are awful.
If I had my way and controlled DC/Marvel, I would ban all relationship-related bullshit.

"hey we have these two black characters , who have had little or no interactions before what should we do with them?!"
"I know, we make them husband and wife and ruin both characters because reasons. We are so progressive as fuck."

What a sick bastard...

What the fuck is wrong with him?

>e despite us, the reader, knowing how fucked everything actually is
????

Doesn't help that Percy is doubling down on Logan x Jean.

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I wonder what Hickman had planned with them in his initial plans since he was the one who created this new status for them but he never did anything

Has Cantwell EVER had a good run? Dude's only a few steps behind Cain in SOPs, and new warriors was looking like it was Riviera level.

All this movie synerigy. NO fucking good shit. They should have given it to Priest.

The dad rapes the little blonde kid

Have you never read Clarissa? Ok it goes like this
the family is supremely fucked up with the Dad running things like a dictator and demanding they keep up aperances while he sexually abuses Clarissa. The mon is constantly drunk, the older brother bully's Clarissa for being abused and the second son is scared out of his wits, while Clarissa refuses to play along so she ends up being the enemy of the whole charade

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Are the only plots for Medusa that they can think of is Medusa cheats on Black Bolt or Medusa gets her hair cut?

>They should have given it to Priest
Theres a lot of shit they should have gave to Priest but they ended up giving it to cheap idiots like Cantwell and the dude writing the Cap/Iron Man crossover

Logan and Scott ditch Jean and start fucking

Cafu was wasted in 1995 Zaragoza

This felt like a "fuck you, you know you have to clap for this" to the fans. Good thing it'll be adapted in a big budget animated movie soon rather than being forgotten as the obscure cringe dogshit it is.

Actually I'd say just the publicity and push it's getting makes it the worst one ITT, at least no one latched onto most of the others posted whereas now you have people saying "Gwen is for Miles" regardless of version.

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but this is another gwen, right?

Kid Cable already set that up.

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It's the only living Gwen Stacy that's been in any Spider-Man media since TASM2, she's a lot of people's introduction to the character and essentially rewriting the original since she's the main universe Gwen in a couple of the comics and cartoons.

The alternate universe excuse doesn't really fly, imagine if Nightwing dated an alternate universe version of Martha Wayne, it'd still be stupid as fuck and Bruce not commenting on it and even encouraging it would be ridiculous.

Not only could she sense it, she could feel it all

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Alternate universe gwen.

I've never seen anyone in real life push for this. It's overwhelmingly BBC spammers, and hotep types on the internet, as far as I've seen..

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It's almost like Brevoort is afraid of Priest. Brevoort should have been fired for continuing to get dogshit writers on IM and CA. The guy is like stilll pretending Cap/Tony haven't become household names due to the MCU and getting idiots like Cantwell.

Jesus christ, just read the fucking comic--it's online, like everything else.

No wonder oldfags get so grumpy about spoonfeeding.

The industry in general doesn't like priest, because for all that shit they say about promoting black authors, it's just a facade. And I think people in general SHOULD be afraid of Priest.

His Black Panther run in the 90's didn't get nominated ONCE.

I hate DickBabs but it's going to be the only thing we ever see ever.

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or you could just answer the fuckin question

Only Peter can tame Johnny.

if you could be a manwhore you wouldn't get sick of it

The Inhumans: By Right of Birth is a wholesome book about Medusa's love for BB and their kid

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Every Medusa pairing that's not Black Bolt has been an awful mistake.

Steve Englehart's hateboner for Pietro ended up doing more long-term damage to Crystal than it did to Quicksilver, despite his attempts to make her cheating look justified because of Pietro being such a bad husband and father.

>Also apparently Vision and Wanda knew
No, they find out in the same issue Pietro finds out. Wanda's apprentice found out about it earlier, but was afraid to tell anyone.

Every Wanda pairing that's not Vision, and every Vision pairing that's not Wanda has been an awful mistake, and a lot of them have just been pointless, spiteful efforts at keeping them apart.

He has an Inhumans fetish. He used to all about Crystal.

In Batman Thrillkiller, it's heavily implied that Barbara is having an affair with Bruce behind Dick's back.

Really, it just paints them both as being shitty people, I'm not entirely sure what Chaykin was thinking.

Barack Obama

why do writers keep trying to force bruce/barbara in things? it's never done well, always ranging between stupid and out of character to downright creepy.

Bruce Timm

>Kid Cable
That's just Nate Grey

>Every Wanda pairing that's not Vision, and every Vision pairing that's not Wanda has been an awful mistake
Oh god that awful Wanda/Voodoo pairing is up there as one of the worst relationships in Marvel's last 10 years probably next to Carol/Rhodey

Shouldn't Gwen's hood by failing down?

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I'm convinced Brevoort only ever greenlit Zub's crackship for the purpose of blocking MCU Wanda/Vision synergy, and then rejected Zub's attempts to pitch a mini for them because it's not like he or anyone else actually cared about the pairing.

What's really sad is seeing actual Wanda fans insisting against all evidence in the comics that they're somehow still together, and that nothing can happen in a character's life when they're in limbo. We've had three years of everyone at Marvel ignoring it, and that we've repeatedly been shown they don't live together, it's like what's wrong with those fans? Just accept that nobody at Marvel except Zub wanted it to be a thing, so they must have broken up off-panel almost immediately, and take that as a win.

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>What's really sad is seeing actual Wanda fans

That's all you needed to say.

Wanda literally died and no one told Voodoo about it, not even a single mention by the Avengers like you know maybe we need tell her "boyfriend" maybe he wants to go to Krakoa with us to recover her corpse lol

I wish Nate got merced in the Age of X event and hasn't been seen since. That's Kid Cable who killed based Old Cable then took his place and ended up being a complete bitch in X of Swords

Priest probably knows all of his dirty laundry, remember Priest used to be the Spider desk Editor

Pietro has gotten away with some awful shit scott free. Remember when he found out Luna wasn't a mutant he was gonna give her Terrigen. He's also the main architect of the House of M incident but it's Wanda who gets all the shit

I think Priest's time as a Marvel editor ended before Brevoort even started working for them. Any dirt he'd have would be on people who haven't worked for the company in a long time.

Bendis actually later retconned her as having had an affair with Sentry while she was still dating Johnny lmao

Poor Crystal, she was one of Kirby and Lee's best female characters. Very sad to have seen her done dirty like that over the decades.

>Carol/Rhodey
Rhodey deserved the better Captain Marvel and Carol deserves to be alone

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might be my least favorite pairing in all of capeshit and I wish it would just fuck off

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I don't blame you it's the cornerstone and driving force behind the single worst Batman run of all time

It's funny that Crystal got treated the way she did considering in the early days she was written to be extremely kind-hearted and sweet; just a genuinely all-around good person who'd provide some much-needed stability to Johnny.

cringe

Tom King ruined Bat/Cat

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Don't be delusional. She has older fans from pre-Bendis Avengers who refused to just give up on her, and a new generation of fans because of the MCU.

After that, I don't know how anyone could seriously think they're still a couple. If they were, he'd have been there.

A lot of the same people who think this seem to be really angry about Wanda going back to the classic costume, like they wanted her to stay in the boring 2015 costume forever.

wrong

I don't think it ever was particularly good, but he was the final nail for me. I don't want to see it any more and will actively avoid it

She’s already in a relationship with Blue Marvel

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>Don't be delusional. She has older fans from pre-Bendis Avengers who refused to just give up on her, and a new generation of fans because of the MCU.

Her new generation of fans are the same cunts and dykes who rooted for Daenerys in Game of Thrones. Nobody can be blamed for wanting the character to die just to spite them.

The more I see of modern TMNT the more disappointed I get

>hating the character because of some idiot fans on Twitter who want her to become a villain and will cheer for her killing everyone
Those people will have moved on to whoever the next massively OP heroine in television or movies is within a year, and you will still be here calling for the comic and MCU versions of Wanda to die just to spite them even long after they've moved on. The audience who like the Wanda/Vision pairing, and superheroes trying to live normal domestic lives are more likely to stick around for the long term if they get more of what they want, and you're here taking your anger at Twitter out on those fans, and on older comics fans.

Why did he hate Pietro?

you're the one that should fuck off

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The only time I liked the ship was in Gotham Tv show and Arkham City

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pfeiffer or whatever his name is ruined this run with his bradley shit.

Don't forget that in the follow-up Bruce cheats on Barbara with Black Canary, whose husband was murdered only like a week before. She even insists they both wear their masks while doing the deed so "we don't go to Hell for betraying the people we love".

Bruce Timm did it too. Batman Beyond confirmed they fucked. And the New Adventures was heavily leaning on that subtext when Dick and Batman broke up.

He basically warned Batgirl from getting involved with Batman in that scene

Any ship that has this many detractors that objectively only hate it to prop up other ships automatically has my support.

This is why I could never hate Kataang. So many whiney complaints in both Any Forums and Twitter come from the same exact salty Zutara fans that got triggered that their ship never passed

But instead, its from fans that grew up with DCAU and wanted DianaxBruce instead.

It makes me wanna support Superman/Wonder Woman more. Because I hate you fags

>Hey what if we had Batman’s biggest recurring male ally and his biggest recurring female ally be a thing?, genius right

This pairing is just boring and it does nothing for either either characters.

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That comic was calling Vision and her husband and wife though. It definitely wasn’t acting like Wanda was dating Vodoo.

>wtf is wrong with him?
>I like Grant Morrison
wtf is wrong with you?

See this is character assassination because Johnny wouldn't cheat

i hate this pairing, so god damn much. complete garbage. almost as bad as Zatanna x Bat character

>i dont read comics the post.

they literally grew up together and the entirety of Storms character back then was her desire for a return to her roots and her feeling out of place with the muties.

She also never played back fiddle or was just someones black gf when she was with T'Challa. They had kids and she still was with the X-Men

>so popular that its super common to see the two characters cosplay together

>made canon due to an extremely popular animated movie

>literally canon.

user what world do you live on?

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the modern day version of this is garbage.

bet this would have been a great pairing in the 90s. better than Wondie x Bat too

this one feel TOO forced

What did Black Bolt do to deserve this

Spider-Gwen is dogshit trash character that shouldn't even exist in the first place. So is Miles.
They are perfect together.

There are more Peter x Spider-Gwen cosplayers lmao

will always be shit

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All of Freud's theories were wrong.

I'd like it if the whole thing ended with the dad being burned alive but well whatever.

Fucking this. Batman, with a fucking criminal. Its just unthinkable

With a thief. If ever there were a place where thievery was necessary to survive, it would be Gotham.

that's why it's great. the autistic vigilante and the thief who doesn't even know she's good.

Probably not. If they never did a comic proving otherwise, he probably would have retconned Johnny as being Jim Hammond though some stupid shit.

>This felt like a "fuck you, you know you have to clap for this" to the fans
Go outside, internet identity politics are frying your brain.

They had no interaction before this storyline, literally live in different dimensions, and the story ended with them not even together.

Dude Bendis wrote it, there's zero uncertainty about the intended message

>implying Bendis is smart enough to put messages in his "work"
You severely overestimate him

I think Bendis naming Miles’ father after the leader of the Confederate States of America and having him move out of the house and abandon Miles was his attempt to send a message to his black children.

He doesn't have to be aware of what he's doing for us to know what his motivations are, and for his work to end up feeling like "fuck you"

And it's going to be in a movie which more than what most pairings ITT have

Catwoman looks like she has a big masturbation arm here