Why can't we make stradivari violins anymore?

Why can't we make stradivari violins anymore?

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Because the people who had a deal with the devil died

There is nothing mysterious about them and there are several very skilled violin makers producing top quality instruments right now. Strads are popular for two reasons: 1. People flip them at auction like paintings. 2. Cache. Some owners will select a violinist to loan their strad. They seem to get some enjoyment out of owning the thing that a good violinist plays. It's a weird thing.

300 years from now people will be idolizing ali express guitars as the epitome of music instruments

confession. I tried to learn the violin, got me a yamaha electric. Played it a lot, suzuki method. I gave up and sold it. I regret it.

No they won't because that implies strads we're low quality mass produced instruments and they weren't. Quality is quality you dumb fucking leftist cunt

One possible reason is that lumber is processed differently in the modern age. Back in the day, logs could sit in the water for years and take on different characteristics. Another could be the old-fashioned glue mixture that no one can really identify. As said they're not really the mind-blowing standard of perfection they're sometimes made out to be, they're just really nice violins.

>they're not really the mind-blowing standard of perfection they're sometimes made out to be, they're just really nice violins.
There have been experiments on this. Double blind using well respected soloists as test subjects. Result? They couldn't pick a strad from a modern (very well built) violin. No question they are excellent violins but the best of the forever actually worth millions solely because of their quality? Nah.
nationalgeographic.com/science/article/stradivarius-violins-arent-better-than-new-ones-round-two

Here are the results of that study in detail
lam.jussieu.fr/Membres/Fritz/HomePage/Vincennes/FritzEtAl_PNAS_public.pdf

because the tone of a stradivarius is mostly hyped it comes from many generation of cork sniffers


a 100 years old violin played it by a pro can easily match it

The guitar equivalent is a 1930s or early 40s Martin D28 - these go for over a hundred grand. Makes my 2022 D-18 seem a bargain by comparison.

The climate affected growth patterns of trees used in their construction is something that can't be replicated in modern times.
That said, it doesn't really make enough of a difference tonewise to worry about it.
The better question is why violin makers are so stubbornly stuck in traditional manufacturing techniques when stronger, better sounding designs could certainly be innovated today.

Trees grew denser wood at the location/time they were made. There was far less sunlight during the 50 or so years these violins were made due to some climate anomalies. The trees therefore grew slower resulting in denser wood.

This dense wood is probably virtually impossible to grow today because there’s so much carbon in the atmosphere, conditions for vegetation growth are excellent right now.

Of course then there is the master craftsmanship, and the instruments themselves have had time to season and harden as necessary. It’s easy to say someone could do it these days, but then why can’t anyone build a palace like Versailles, or make stain glass windows like those in the great European cathedrals? The modern world and market is corrosive to the kind of multigenerational dedication required for this craftsmanship.

Alot of modern day musicians suffer from the cargo cult syndrome. Lots of cork sniffing but most would have trouble telling cheap gear from expensive gear in double-blind test.

What made them so good? Or was it just a meme that got perpetuated like the 59 Les Paul meme?

What do think? Instruments are glorified shovels. 9 times out of 10 it won't matter what you use if your shit sucks.

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Name recognition
This is not to distract from the fact that they were indeed some of the best, but their mythical status is largely overblown. Many contemporaries and makers through the years are no worse

It isn’t just a meme, analysis of the wood shows the density is both slightly greater and much more consistent in violins of the era, particularly Stradivarius, then wood today. It is impossible to grow trees today like those from the “mini ice age” conditions of 16-1700s.

Who cares when 99.9% of people cannot hear a difference?

Wrong. It will be PRS’s and Steinbergers

lmao you're delusional

Delusionally rich in 30 years

Just grow the trees closer to the north pole.

So we're doing the whole tone wood thing now.

>not jelly over my ax
back to your 9 string and juice boxes, sonny.

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just because its old doesnt mean its good
this is what guitar fags do all the time they will just equate old with it sounds better with absolutely no foundation for the argument everyone just accepts it